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  1. I don't think Adam Lanza would've gotten a gun if they could only be bought illegally.

    There's also a logic in just getting less guns in circulation.

    Of course harder punishments could be good too, but I don't really know that part of American law.

    And Aaron, let's just hope that since the thief can get a gun legally too, he doesn't blow your head off first.

  2. Unless he blows your head off first. Anything that makes your house more appealing to the thief than a millionaires home?

    edit: oh, olof just said that
  3. Originally posted by Ali709:[..]

    So you're telling me you believe operating guns and machine guns have no "basic standards" and no training is needed? Because the fact that people are getting guns without proper training is the reason you have these tragedies.
    And what about the other examples I gave you?

    "Taking rights away from people who had nothing to do with a tragedy" is what the Patriot Act did. I didn't see many conservatives worried about that. And having slaves used to be a right some time ago, that doesn't make it right.

    Have I ever once said I'm a fan of the patriot act. Also, you evidently don't know American gun law well. For starters, machine guns are illegal.
  4. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:I don't think Adam Lanza would've gotten a gun if they could only be bought illegally.

    There's also a logic in just getting less guns in circulation.

    Of course harder punishments could be good too, but I don't really know that part of American law.

    And Aaron, let's just hope that since the thief can get a gun legally too, he doesn't blow your head off first.

    You assume a criminal wont use weapon s other than guns. Remember, the two biggest mass killings in American history were done with bombs.
  5. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    Unless he blows your head off first. Anything that makes your house more appealing to the thief than a millionaires home?

    edit: oh, olof just said that

    Because thiefs only target milionaires. I love how libs see the world through the lens of how much a man makes.
  6. I don't see how America fixes this. If they introduce more strict gun controls then they are only making things difficult for the people who are already doing things legally by the book.

    Nut jobs will still be nut jobs no matter what.
  7. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Have I ever once said I'm a fan of the patriot act. Also, you evidently don't know American gun law well. For starters, machine guns are illegal.


    I don't know guns well. I meant semi-automatic. And fantastic way of again avoiding the main point that I'm making.
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  9. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    You assume a criminal wont use weapon s other than guns. Remember, the two biggest mass killings in American history were done with bombs.

    I don't think Adam Lanza would've made a bomb either, and I don't think the thief would bomb your house.

  10. Thives use knives more often than guns, and I think a guy who was crazy enough to kill 20 children really cares how he does it.
  11. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Thives use knives more often than guns, and I think a guy who was crazy enough to kill 20 children really cares how he does it.

    He got the weapons from his mother, doesn't seem like the guy who'd do tough work to get illegal stuff.

  12. Well, twenty-eight people have been killed because a madmen could get his hands on a gun. Now, your argument is that you want yourself protected against thieves. That means you think every year a few people should be sacrificed, so that you can protect your stuff.

    If this is about million dollar paintings, it might be a very tiny little bit easier to understand. But I cannot understand how stolen televisions can justify deaths of innocent people children.

    Moreover, there are other ways to protect yourself from a thief. You don't have to keep your door wide open and hide behind it with a gun nowadays.

    By the way, what does this have to do with liberals?
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