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  1. Originally posted by bartajax:Lets hope that now the world could go into a more peacefull period and that Islam people stop with killing inocent people.


    You're joking, right?
  2. What a lack of knowledge.


  3. I meant organisation like Al-Qaida, Hezbolla and Hamas. Of course I know that the normal people in countries like Iraq, Iran and Afganistan dont like wars and that the most people there werent happy with some idiots flying into the Twin Towers.

    Edit: But to be honest I'm not a big fan of the Islam religion and of all the religions. Here in The Netherlands we have had and still have some problems with Moslim people.
  4. it's a very delicate discussing thing
    i'm against any kind of war and civils deaths, and soldier's too. i was against Iraq war, i am against Libia bombing and so on. and i think Bin Laden could be taken without ten years of Afghanistan war.
    has Bin Laden got to be keep alive? go and tell to NY, Washington, London, Madrid .. Marrakesh people.
    you can say the same for the iraqi people and you're right too .. as i said it's very delicate
    i'm against any kind of human being kills .. but there are exceptions that cannot be consider "humans" .. Osama Bin Laden is one them .. like Hitler, Mussolini and some others maybe also one from your ex-country (don't get offended by this, it's definetely not my will; if so sorry)
  5. Originally posted by clover68:it's a very delicate discussing thing
    i'm against any kind of war and civils deaths, and soldier's too. i was against Iraq war, i am against Libia bombing and so on. and i think Bin Laden could be taken without ten years of Afghanistan war.
    has Bin Laden got to be keep alive? go and tell to NY, Washington, London, Madrid .. Marrakesh people.
    you can say the same for the iraqi people and you're right too .. as i said it's very delicate
    i'm against any kind of human being kills .. but there are exceptions that cannot be consider "humans" .. Osama Bin Laden is one them .. like Hitler, Mussolini and some others maybe also one from your ex-country (don't get offended by this, it's definetely not my will; if so sorry)


    Yeah, we had Pavelić, Hitler's son of a bitch financed by Mussolini.

    But let's go back on topic. Here's the thing: I don't believe in Bin Laden. I don't believe that one guy, one guy was smarter than this:



    I think that US just randomly picked one terrorist and said: 'Ok, he's gonna be our ultimate target for the next x number of years. Remember, USA invaded two countries because of that guy.

    In order to invade someone or something, you need to have a symbol, someone very bad so that people will say: 'Ok, let's get that bastard no matter what!'.

    Iraq: 105.000 dead civilians. Because of one man, or because of this:


  6. You really think that if that is true it could be kept secret for ten years


    I think that the USA has gone to far, but I agree with them that the some parts of the Middle-East arent to be trust and if there isnt a diplomatic solution you have to do something to stop them. If you look at Iran, I just dont trust that country and their president Ahmadinejad.

    Ofcourse I hope that we all over the world will live in peace but Im afraid that that never gonna happen.


  7. Of course.





    Of course that you don't trust him because mainstream media told you so!


  8. You are joking now right? At least thats what I hope.
  9. i can be with you for the Iraq matter (and also for the actual Libia matter). your image shows the most relevant reason.
    but i cannot be with you for what it concerns Al Qaida and who was its chief.
    for the fact that you say that US created Iraq and saddam and contribuited in the growing of Al Qaida and Bin laden before 9/11, again i'm with you
  10. Originally posted by vanquish:True, it's more a symbolic thing than anything likely to make a material difference.

    In fact it'll probably just spur on Muslim extremism seeing as the US just made him a martyr

    Indeed, the head of the hydra comparison feels about right. It's amazing how quickly feelings haved turned from 'wow, positivity' to 'hmmm, conspiracy' in the space of 5-6 hours since I crashed out.
  11. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]It's amazing how quickly feelings haved turned from 'wow, positivity' to 'hmmm, conspiracy' in the space of 5-6 hours since I crashed out.


    where have you found this turning?

  12. All across the social networks like Twitter and Facebook - on FB, so many people (this is within my friendship circle, to be fair) are now saying that he's been dead for years etc., that it's all too convenient, doubting the actual state of affairs as it is. On Twitter, let's just say that one of the top trending topics in the UK is #conspiracy. I mean, when it all came 'round, the only people I knew who were awake were Stateside, so there was a lot of understandable rejoicing, but yeah now the Brits are coming 'round, they're completely killing the mood lol.
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