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  1. In lots of countries:
    - Car needs to be insured when you go on holidays
    - You need to be insured when you are on holidays
    - You need to have at least the basic medical care package

    So to be honest I think there are only a few non-americans who can see the problem ...
  2. Originally posted by Risto:In lots of countries:
    - Car needs to be insured when you go on holidays
    - You need to be insured when you are on holidays
    - You need to have at least the basic medical care package

    So to be honest I think there are only a few non-americans who can see the problem ...


    Read the American constitution.
  3. Originally posted by Risto:In lots of countries:
    - Car needs to be insured when you go on holidays
    - You need to be insured when you are on holidays
    - You need to have at least the basic medical care package

    So to be honest I think there are only a few non-americans who can see the problem ...


    It's that way here in Iran...I know, not the best example, as we call our leaders dictators...but trust me, people are actually happy with these laws, it's from the original constitution. Oh, and the car needs to be insured all the time, not just when you're on holidays.
  4. I know, but they check when you get into most countries. My wording was not so good
  6. Originally posted by Ali709:[..]

    It's that way here in Iran...I know, not the best example, as we call our leaders dictators...but trust me, people are actually happy with these laws, it's from the original constitution. Oh, and the car needs to be insured all the time, not just when you're on holidays.


    The laws of other countrys don't mean much when it comes to American domestic policy.

    Also, most states require your car to be insured, but you don't need a car to live.



  7. That the American government has the authority to regulate commerce. Forcing it in a diffrent thing.

    Theres also other issues, but thats the big one.


  8. So insuring your car is in some way less worse than insuring yourself so that you can get medical care when you need to?

    If there was no obamacare, would you be insured? Can you pay the ambulance, the first aid personel and a surgeon when you get a heart attack on the city streets? Or should we add those costs + interest to a debt you will be fighting for years to get rid of?

    People take the stupidists insurances, but health care aint one of them.
  9. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    The laws of other countrys don't mean much when it comes to American domestic policy.

    Also, most states require your car to be insured, but you don't need a car to live.


    I didn't mean that because we have it, you should have it too. I meant to say that we have such laws, and we are happy with them, could be the same for you.
  10. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:That the American government has the authority to regulate commerce. Forcing it in a diffrent thing.

    Theres also other issues, but thats the big one.

    Ah fair enough if you didn't feel ObamaCare was unconstitutional, would you be against it? I'm just asking as someone who lives in a nation-state where we have the NHS, and personally can't imagine, nor would want a situation where we didn't have it.
  11. Originally posted by Risto:[..]

    So insuring your car is in some way less worse than insuring yourself so that you can get medical care when you need to?

    If there was no obamacare, would you be insured? Can you pay the ambulance, the first aid personel and a surgeon when you get a heart attack on the city streets? Or should we add those costs + interest to a debt you will be fighting for years to get rid of?

    People take the stupidists insurances, but health care aint one of them.


    I don't drive. Also, the car thing, is a state level law. The American federael govenrment wasen't meant to have that kind of power. 10th Amendment.
  12. Originally posted by Ali709:[..]

    I didn't mean that because we have it, you should have it too. I meant to say that we have such laws, and we are happy with them, could be the same for you.


    Nah. I'll stick with my individual rights, and limited government.
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