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  1. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    See? After everyting I tried to teach you, you still don't get how every capitalistic country works.

    As a citizen you pay many taxes. You pay tax because you're citizen, you pay tax because you work (if you work) and so on.

    Your money goes to government and with it government finances herself and everything else in USA. Yeah, you paid for those weapons your soldiers used in Iraq. And you paid for the road in front of your house.

    Your government couldn't exist without your money.

    When government pays for your education, she's just giving you back only part of the money YOU ALREADY GAVE HER.





    most of the time when the government pays for your education, its a loan that you pay back. I left school in 2000 and I am still paying on my loans. When people want to get back the money they paid to the government, they get on welfare or foodstamps. My family has been struggling for a while so my wife and I have relied on Government programs like WIC to help us out. While we will get off these programs as soon as we can, there are people who exist only on these programs and make no effort to change. In the U.S., we call these people "trash".


  2. I do actually.
  4. Originally posted by KieranU2:I must admit, Utku, you do have a point, it's not your native language. You can speak two languages, whereas Aaron can probably speak English only (can't spell it very well though). You & everyone else do very well considering English isn't you & everyone else's native language.


    Actually, I know Spanish fairly well, although I am out of practice. With a couple weeks of studying though, I would probally be too the point were I could have a conversation in it.


  5. Only reason it is nonsense is because you don't agree with me.
  6. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    See? After everyting I tried to teach you, you still don't get how every capitalistic country works.

    As a citizen you pay many taxes. You pay tax because you're citizen, you pay tax because you work (if you work) and so on.

    Your money goes to government and with it government finances herself and everything else in USA. Yeah, you paid for those weapons your soldiers used in Iraq. And you paid for the road in front of your house.

    Your government couldn't exist without your money.

    When government pays for your education, she's just giving you back only part of the money YOU ALREADY GAVE HER.





    Maybe in your wanabe socialist country. In America we dont believe in handouts.
  7. Originally posted by Guenther:[..]

    most of the time when the government pays for your education, its a loan that you pay back. I left school in 2000 and I am still paying on my loans. When people want to get back the money they paid to the government, they get on welfare or foodstamps. My family has been struggling for a while so my wife and I have relied on Government programs like WIC to help us out. While we will get off these programs as soon as we can, there are people who exist only on these programs and make no effort to change. In the U.S., we call these people "trash".


    +10.


  8. I just explained you how YOUR country works and exist. Jesus. Really, go back to elementary school ol whatever you call it and learn something. For your own sake because you embarass yourself to fucking much.

    I know what you guys in USA (not America!) believe in:

  9. Since you don't know shit, maybe this will help you:

  10. Originally posted by Guenther:[..]

    most of the time when the government pays for your education, its a loan that you pay back. I left school in 2000 and I am still paying on my loans. When people want to get back the money they paid to the government, they get on welfare or foodstamps. My family has been struggling for a while so my wife and I have relied on Government programs like WIC to help us out. While we will get off these programs as soon as we can, there are people who exist only on these programs and make no effort to change. In the U.S., we call these people "trash".


    Well, in Europe, we call your system 'corporate democracy' because goverment cares more about banks and corporations then it's own people.

    In most democracies you pay taxes and then you have free health care, education and so on. We just call it "free" but it isn't free because we already paid for it.

    In USA, you pay your taxes and then you still have to pay for your broken finger in hospital.

    In USA, if you want proper education, you have to get loans.It's a system of modern slavery. You finish your education and you are ready to begin your life and yet you are fucked up because it will take years to return loaned money.

    In Europe, if you're successful enough, government pays you education. You know why? Because its in interest of every country to get as much high educated people as possible.

    Let me go step by step:

    1. You're good student. Government pays you education.
    2. You get high education. You get well paid job.
    3. Because of that, you pay more tax. Better paid job, higher taxes.
    4. On the finish line, government earned on your work 100x more then it paid for your education.
  12. That graph is tremendously interesting, Yogi. Thanks a million, I might even use it in an essay!

    PS. Aaron, once again you're showing your senseless stupidity&stubborness. We all told you that your picking on Utku's English skills was out of context and pretty embarrasing for yourself, and you're still trying to prove you're right? So sad...
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