1. Originally posted by Guenther:[..]

    most of the time when the government pays for your education, its a loan that you pay back. I left school in 2000 and I am still paying on my loans. When people want to get back the money they paid to the government, they get on welfare or foodstamps. My family has been struggling for a while so my wife and I have relied on Government programs like WIC to help us out. While we will get off these programs as soon as we can, there are people who exist only on these programs and make no effort to change. In the U.S., we call these people "trash".


    Well, in Europe, we call your system 'corporate democracy' because goverment cares more about banks and corporations then it's own people.

    In most democracies you pay taxes and then you have free health care, education and so on. We just call it "free" but it isn't free because we already paid for it.

    In USA, you pay your taxes and then you still have to pay for your broken finger in hospital.

    In USA, if you want proper education, you have to get loans.It's a system of modern slavery. You finish your education and you are ready to begin your life and yet you are fucked up because it will take years to return loaned money.

    In Europe, if you're successful enough, government pays you education. You know why? Because its in interest of every country to get as much high educated people as possible.

    Let me go step by step:

    1. You're good student. Government pays you education.
    2. You get high education. You get well paid job.
    3. Because of that, you pay more tax. Better paid job, higher taxes.
    4. On the finish line, government earned on your work 100x more then it paid for your education.
  2. That graph is tremendously interesting, Yogi. Thanks a million, I might even use it in an essay!

    PS. Aaron, once again you're showing your senseless stupidity&stubborness. We all told you that your picking on Utku's English skills was out of context and pretty embarrasing for yourself, and you're still trying to prove you're right? So sad...
  3. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    I just explained you how YOUR country works and exist. Jesus. Really, go back to elementary school ol whatever you call it and learn something. For your own sake because you embarass yourself to fucking much.

    I know what you guys in USA (not America!) believe in:

    [image]


    I'm sorry, but your ideology is 20 years too late. Your precious USSR failed miserably.
  4. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Well, in Europe, we call your system 'corporate democracy' because goverment cares more about banks and corporations then it's own people.

    In most democracies you pay taxes and then you have free health care, education and so on. We just call it "free" but it isn't free because we already paid for it.

    In USA, you pay your taxes and then you still have to pay for your broken finger in hospital.

    In USA, if you want proper education, you have to get loans.It's a system of modern slavery. You finish your education and you are ready to begin your life and yet you are fucked up because it will take years to return loaned money.

    In Europe, if you're successful enough, government pays you education. You know why? Because its in interest of every country to get as much high educated people as possible.

    Let me go step by step:

    1. You're good student. Government pays you education.
    2. You get high education. You get well paid job.
    3. Because of that, you pay more tax. Better paid job, higher taxes.
    4. On the finish line, government earned on your work 100x more then it paid for your education.


    Socialism is modern slavery. It makes you dependent on the gov for your every need and desire.
  5. Originally posted by LikeASong:That graph is tremendously interesting, Yogi. Thanks a million, I might even use it in an essay!

    PS. Aaron, once again you're showing your senseless stupidity&stubborness. We all told you that your picking on Utku's English skills was out of context and pretty embarrasing for yourself, and you're still trying to prove you're right? So sad...


    I'm not treating him any diffrently than I would someone who spoke perfect English. Bottom line. I don't have to prove shit to you, because I know I'm right.
  6. Bottom line: if you got a problem with the fact that I want to make my own way through college, than there is a problem with you.
  7. All hail Aaron...

    I think it's more, if you think you are right most of the time, then you certainly do have a problem. Especially when you're not at college
  8. Originally posted by KieranU2:All hail Aaron...

    I think it's more, if you think you are right most of the time, then you certainly do have a problem. Especially when you're not at college


    Fuck college. Who decided that you needed a college eduacation, to be successful, and surely who said the governemnt had to pay for it you elitist son of a bitch.

    When i do go to college, (and rest assured it is one of my lifes goals, I even have a school picked out) it will be on my terms, and my money. If I ever have children, I'll tell them the same thing my father told me when I was a kid.

    "No one owes you shit".
  9. Ahahaha, it's like setting off a firework. I only do it to wind you up for my gratification.
  10. No sense in discussing the same thing over and over again in this topic. You wont agree, accept it, next topic