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  1. Originally posted by KieranU2:I disagree with a lot here. They should play every song they have ever played. Why should they stop playing some songs? It would slowly start ruining the purpose of extreme set list variation. Also, I love the heavy stuff, why should they stop? It is what they are known for - it is great to see a few quick, heavy ones here and there. I love Mind Your Manners, even if it sounds like Spin the Black Circle part II.

    Seeing Pearl Jam five times this summer and travelling to see them made me realise that I wouldn't do the same for U2. Only saving grace would be if they delved into set list variation to the extent of Pearl Jam.

    Oh, and by the way, Leeds was the best. A bit biased coming from me, though.

    Well said. I agree

  2. I think a few people around here would back me up in saying that I am more than positive about PJ.
  3. I have stated this before and I know it is true for many (but not all): 1987-1998 (ages 14-25) was the era of music that had the most impact on me and then other things seem to take over - or new music became less important. I'm the classic old dude living in the past, I suppose. Any way, as a result it's difficult more me to connect with the newer stuff for bands like PJ.

    But don't get me wrong, I like a lot of it - and I've stated that there are several instances of greatness. The consistency just isn't there.
  4. Last comment: I think "Getaway" is a fabulous song and it's a relatively heavy one.
  5. Getaway is awesome! Im surprised it gets played so little for a new song..

  6. Especially for an opening track to the latest album!
  7. Originally posted by KieranU2:I disagree with a lot here. They should play every song they have ever played. Why should they stop playing some songs? It would slowly start ruining the purpose of extreme set list variation. Also, I love the heavy stuff, why should they stop? It is what they are known for - it is great to see a few quick, heavy ones here and there. I love Mind Your Manners, even if it sounds like Spin the Black Circle part II.

    Seeing Pearl Jam five times this summer and travelling to see them made me realise that I wouldn't do the same for U2. Only saving grace would be if they delved into set list variation to the extent of Pearl Jam.

    Oh, and by the way, Leeds was the best. A bit biased coming from me, though.

    I agree . Thats the bad thing about U2 , they have ALWAYS played a set setlist , where bands like DMB and PJ mix up their sets to the extreme .

    I know this quite well , as I have seen U2 up to 10Xs on the JT tour back in '87 and 10X on the ZooTV tour in '92. It was basically the exact same show , night after night . Looking back , I had a blast at all those shows , but it so wasn't necessary .

    Now seeing PJ numerous times , or DMB, thats a whole other story . DMB on 2 or 3 night stands in the same city , will not play one repeat . IMO thats amazing .

    U2 on the other hand…...
  8. I've read that some fans don't think Getaway translates very well from the album to the stage. I disagree. This, however, is true for Infallible. I love it on the album but it seems a bit flat on the bootlegs.
  9. Originally posted by RUMMY:I've read that some fans don't think Getaway translates very well from the album to the stage. I disagree. This, however, is true for Infallible. I love it on the album but it seems a bit flat on the bootlegs.

    I've always thought Getaway sounds relatively lacklustre on bootlegs. I can't remember if it is Phoenix or Spokane but it sounds rushed to the point where Vedder is struggling to keep up. It sounds as if with most recent songs, they have tuned it down half a step to cater for Vedder's voice. It is the same with Gonna See My Friend – he can't replicate the intensity of his vocals on the record live. Obviously if you're playing 30+ songs, you want to preserve your voice, but it sounds really damp. I love it on the record, it sounds tight as hell. I was disappointed with it live, admittedly.
  10. Originally posted by KieranU2:[..]

    I've always thought Getaway sounds relatively lacklustre on bootlegs. I can't remember if it is Phoenix or Spokane but it sounds rushed to the point where Vedder is struggling to keep up. It sounds as if with most recent songs, they have tuned it down half a step to cater for Vedder's voice. It is the same with Gonna See My Friend – he can't replicate the intensity of his vocals on the record live. Obviously if you're playing 30+ songs, you want to preserve your voice, but it sounds really damp. I love it on the record, it sounds tight as hell. I was disappointed with it live, admittedly.

    We both seem to making arguments against not only each other but ourselves! I'm making arguments against the newer, faster stuff (yet defending Getaway) while you say play the newer, faster ones but Supersonic and Getaway don't live up to their studio versions.

    We are silly.
  11. Hey, RUMMY. Can I bend your ear for a moment?

    I absolutely love the song "Future Days". It represents one of the reasons why I have a true fondness for their second era. Their meditative and introspective side is beautiful and I love when they bring it to the forefront.

    However, when I wasn't looking for it, I think I found a lovely musical counterpart to play before beginning the song. It's a piece of music from the anime Clannad entitled "Kochi (piano)" by Shinji Orito (or, to simplify, "Spring Breeze (Piano Version)").

    I know off-hand that they are in two different keys and their tempos differ ever so slightly, but somehow I think they are absolutely wonderful together. I would love it if you would listen to this combination and gave your thoughts on how it sounds to you. Would you, please?

  12. I can see where you are coming from - especially around the 50-second mark of the song.

    One of the great things about these guys is their ability to ad these little intros and outros (snippets/tags - whatever you want to call them) to there songs. It may be as something as seemingly simple as the little additional picking EV does at the start of Immortality to a all out cover of Interstellar Overdrive to start Corduroy but it always makes the song become more special - for me anyway.

    I think you may be onto something here. Maybe they need to add more to many of their newer songs in their live shows instead of just trying to emulate the studio version. I will be the first to admit that I didn't really like Sirens at first but hearing it live with the outro they developed part way through the 2013 NA tour made me appreciate the song.
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