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Your just being nice to me with that last one, aren't you? It's a brilliant show, however, and I agree.

Like your suggestions.

Ten, Vs, and Vitalogy are indeed 5-star albums.
No Code gets a generous 3.5 stars
Yield gets a stingy 4 stars (it`s got a special place in my heart)
Binaural gets a stingy 3.5 stars
Riot Act gets 4 stars
Avocado gets 3 stars
Backspacer ...3 might be stingy but 3.5 is generous.

Remember: 3 stars means "good"

What would you give Live on Ten Legs?

EDDMB

13 years

Ten legs is a very good release.But,IMO,its really for the casual fan.It has shows from 2003-2010.Unlike 2 Legs,which is still the only,official release from 1998.

The 09.11.11 gig is fantastic Matt.Im still shocked it was released for free,and still no cd version available.

EDDMB

13 years

Backspacer 3 stars !!??!!..lol...I think you might want to re-listen..lol

The End and Just Breathe are so great for me.It was such a relevant release for the band.Yeild was the last PJ album that made a lil noise.

lestertriplett87

13 years

While I would give both Ten and Vs. five stars, there are too many low points on Vitology for me to put it that high. As I've said before, it has some of my favorites, but those other songs knock off at least a half star, and maybe a full one.

EDDMB

13 years

I agree with what you are saying.Its hard to argue with your points.But,if you take those songs out,Vitalogy is a classic release.I used to have the same argument about The Bealtes White Album.There are so many classic songs,but there are a few duds (Bungalow Bill,Dont Pass Me By,Revolution 9) as well.Check this setlist out without Bugs, and the other silly EV inspired tunes....

1) Last Exit
2) Spin The Black Circle
3) Not For You
4) Tremor Christ
5) Whipping
6) Corduroy
7) Satan's Bed
8) Better Man
9) Nothingman
10) Immortality

IMO,if that was how Vitalogy was released,it would have been one of the best releases in the 90s..Its still a great record,even with the Revolution 9 out-takes.

For some reason,Eddie was hell-bent on being so anti-Pearl Jam at that point.He was very upset by Cobains remarks.He actually didnt want Better Man released.Brendan OBrien had to beg him to put it on the record.Of course,he then refused to allow Better Man to be released as a single,or God forbid a video.But,it still dominated radio airplay.Much to Vedder's chagrin.

On the first 2 releases,PJ was Stone and Jeffs band.Vitalogy,Eddie was more in control.By No Code,he was in total complete control.He almost ended Pearl Jam by being so anti-commercial.Anti video.Anti ticketmaster etc....

Fans in the early days couldnt see the band.I remember being like "What the fuck am I doin in Randalls Island" in 1996.It was,and still is a dump.The band finally played MSG and real arenas in 1998,after their heyday.....

Imagine if PJ had played MSG in 1994-1995......

His intentions were good,but it was an unproductive fight.I would have loved a video for Daughter,Small Town,Animal,Better Man etc.If you see PJ today,they make videos (The Fixer) and use Ticketmaster....

Jeremy,by the way,is still one of my all-time favorite videos.....

RUMMY

13 years

Originally posted by EDDMB Backspacer 3 stars !!??!!..lol...I think you might want to re-listen..lol

The End and Just Breathe are so great for me.It was such a relevant release for the band.Yeild was the last PJ album that made a lil noise.

Unthought Known, The Fixer, Just Breathe, and The End stand up with PJ's classics. I think Backspacer is "good" - hence the three-start rating. However, I now skip "Got Some" every time it comes on one of the 2010 or 2011 shows I've been listening to, "Amongst The Waves" is good but I'm glad they decided to not play it every night, "Gonna See My Friends" is fine in small doses, "Supersonic" is good, not a fan of "Force of Nature"...I can't even hum "Johnny Guitar" or "Speed of Sound" right now which, to me, makes them forgettable. Time may change all of this, of course, but this is where I'm at now.

RUMMY

13 years

Originally posted by EDDMB:

1) Last Exit
2) Spin The Black Circle
3) Not For You
4) Tremor Christ
5) Whipping
6) Corduroy
7) Satan's Bed
8) Better Man
9) Nothingman
10) Immortality

This is how I listen to it - when I actually listen to the studio tracks, that is.

RUMMY

13 years

Originally posted by EDDMB:
His intentions were good,but it was an unproductive fight.I would have loved a video for Daughter,Small Town,Animal,Better Man etc.If you see PJ today,they make videos (The Fixer) and use Ticketmaster....

It might have been nice to have promo videos for these songs, but in the spirit of the bands wishes, I am glad when we hear the song we don't think of some movie.

EDDMB

13 years

I like videos.It never ruined anything for me.But,I understand the point.

Backspacer,I agree,has a few duds.Johnny Guitar and Supersonic are weak.Got Some isnt bad.I actually blasted it before when it came on PJ Radio.But The Fixer,Just Breathe and The End really got the band alot of attention,and from casual music fans.It was a strong relevant release.Like All That You Cant Leave Behind and How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb....(5 star releases IMHO)

EDDMB

13 years