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Originally posted by RUMMY[..]

I've never bought, or even downloaded bootlegs from PJ.com - just itunes. I'm curious so I'll try myself and let you know if I have any luck.

Will you be getting any of these shows? If so, digital download or actual CD?

Im goin for the downloads to the Canadian shows,except for my show,Montreal.Ill buy that on CD.Alpine I will also buy CD format for both nights.9.99 is a very fair price for an mp3 download.A good friend of mine buys alot of downloads as well.We swap gigs,so eventually I have almost every show they have released since 2000.Thats alot of boots...lol

RUMMY

13 years

That sure is a lot of shows!

I was considering buying all of the shows at one point but will just be buying the two Toronto shows (even thought I only attended the first one) on CD. I may get mp3's for other shows. I wouldn;t my getting some songs that weren't played in T.O. (Release, Immortality, Glorified G, Spin The Black Circle, Brain of J, Save You, to name a few) but I don't know if I need 10 versions of Alive and nine versions of three Backspacer songs. Maybe they'll end up on itunes so I can just get them individually.

clover68

13 years

Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]
...Alpine I will also buy CD format for both nights...

maybe they're going to make some special boxset for those .. who knows

EDDMB

13 years

I have to say,Im a bit disappointed with the cd release,of PJ 20.The film was great,and I ordered the super deluxe from PJ.com.Side 1 is good,but Alive,Garden and Why Go sound awful.The versions from Drop in the Park (vinyl released with 10 deluxe version) are fantastic and sound great.I have other early boots (Zurich 06.18.92) that sound way better than those versions.I know, from a nostalgia point of view,why they are there.Its one thing to watch an early clip on dvd ,that sounds bad,its another to listen to it.I was hoping for more unreleased live gems here.I admit,most dont have 95% of their boots like I do,since 2000.The great live versions here,(Release,Crown of Thorns,Indifference,Bushleaguer,Better Man,RVM)I already have.So that was a bit of a letdown.

Blood,NFY and Last Exit are my highlights of CD 1.Great sounding,rare, unreleased early live versions.Walk With Me is also a nice addition.

CD 2 is where things really go downhill for me.Where is VS ?? Where is No Code ? I wish a couple of great sounding live versions from 1996, could have been added here.For years,I have listened to 2 great early boots.LV 11.30.93,and Berlin 11.03.96.The band should have cleaned up a couple of songs ,from those 2 gigs,for this release.1996 is my favorite year,and to not have anything here is a shame.Too many bad sounding demos IMO.Plus,there is room for more tracks on both discs.How about a couple of tracks from Lolapalooza 1992.Or Randalls Island 1996.Would have been nice to hear some live tunes with Chris Cornell,circa 1992,instead of poor soundin demos.Need to Know demo ? Instead of In My Tree live 1996 ???

Overall,a nice addition to my massive PJ collection.But,I think this cd could have been put together better,songwise.The cd itself,booklet and all,is beautiful.Also,PJ.com are selling the Deluxe version of the film,with 4 hours of extra film.

clover68

13 years

all that you say is reasonable and shareable from a certain point of view

but it's the soundtrack of the movie right? so it should reflect it (i tell you i haven't watched it yet,waiting for my 3 disc bluray boxset

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also i think that in this kind of release it's very hard to have all satisfying .. whatever is the choice there is always something out that leaves disappointed; so vast are the things from which to draw
i personally love the demos in there
like you said it's a nice addition and i'm loving seeing it on my PJ shelves

RUMMY

13 years

Interesting comments. Admittedly, I wasn't planning to buy PJ20. With so many live boots out there, I felt that I'd save my money to get the boots from the T.O show instead. I suppose, however, having more from the 1990's is a good thing. I'll give the Las Vegas '93 and Berlin '96 a listen.

Where did you see the movie? At the theatre?

EDDMB

13 years

Originally posted by RUMMYInteresting comments. Admittedly, I wasn't planning to buy PJ20. With so many live boots out there, I felt that I'd save my money to get the boots from the T.O show instead. I suppose, however, having more from the 1990's is a good thing. I'll give the Las Vegas '93 and Berlin '96 a listen.

Where did you see the movie? At the theatre?

Yes,I saw it here in Manhattan.I thought it was great.EV is also on the cover of Q this month.Good interview.Go to pearljambootlegs.org.They have so many great boots from the 90s,and also the released boots up til 2006.

EDDMB

13 years

Originally posted by clover68all that you say is reasonable and shareable from a certain point of view
but it's the soundtrack of the movie right? so it should reflect it (i tell you i haven't watched it yet,waiting for my 3 disc bluray boxset )
also i think that in this kind of release it's very hard to have all satisfying .. whatever is the choice there is always something out that leaves disappointed; so vast are the things from which to draw
i personally love the demos in there
like you said it's a nice addition and i'm loving seeing it on my PJ shelves

True.But IMO,I cant listen to a bad audio of Alive or really anything.I can watch a clip more easy.Like in the film.I understand why its there.But,thats me.I just thought it would have been easy, to add a couple more rare live gems like, Animal or Sometimes or Long Road to either disc.There is room on both discs for extra tracks.Not a big deal.

Im also surprised Release and Indifference are live versions from 2006.The 4 shows the band played in Italy,IMO,were the best from that year.I just prefer live versions of songs closer to when they are released.The Torino gig,09.19.06, is a favorite of mine.The new cd from 2006,PJ,is performed in its entirety.

Also,try to get a hold of the Drop in the Park download.The band released it on vinyl ,as part of the Ten re-release.Sound is fantastic.

clover68

13 years

Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]

Im also surprised Release and Indifference are live versions from 2006.The 4 shows the band played in Italy,IMO,were the best from that year.I just prefer live versions of songs closer to when they are released.The Torino gig,09.19.06, is a favorite of mine.The new cd from 2006,PJ,is performed in its entirety.

actually they are 5

.. Immagine in cornice is a nice document about their time here in '06 as you know for sure.
i was in Milan and Verona; second time i saw them in this city .. first time long time ago during those magic nights of ZooTV

Originally posted by EDDMB:
Also,try to get a hold of the Drop in the Park download.The band released it on vinyl ,as part of the Ten re-release.Sound is fantastic.

yes i know .. great job on that vinyl

RUMMY

13 years

I might make an Italy 2006 compilation. I see that pearljambootlegs.org has them. Can you recall if any "important" songs were omitted from those setlists. I'll inspect them closer myslef but I was just wondering if anything jumps out at you.

EDDMB

13 years

Originally posted by clover68[..]
actually they are 5 .. Immagine in cornice is a nice document about their time here in '06 as you know for sure.
i was in Milan and Verona; second time i saw them in this city .. first time long time ago during those magic nights of ZooTV

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yes i know .. great job on that vinyl

Ahhhh..I stand corrected....LOL..Yes,I missed Bologna....my bad...I love the Italian gigs..I was luck enough to see the band in Milan,06.22.00.....maybe..THE best show the band has ever played.....

EDDMB

13 years

Originally posted by RUMMYI might make an Italy 2006 compilation. I see that pearljambootlegs.org has them. Can you recall if any "important" songs were omitted from those setlists. I'll inspect them closer myslef but I was just wondering if anything jumps out at you.

No..not really..Blood,Leash,Lukin,Hail Hail.....Black...Breath..RVM.....Go..Tremor Christ..maybe the best version of Release (verona,09.16.06) since 1995...That is no surprise as its included on PJ 20...the Torino show, the band play the Avacodo cd start to finish cd 1...I play those versions all the time.....Its great to hear EV speaking Italian after the songs.Check out Given to Fly.It is nothing short of amazing,Verona gig...

PJ.com sent me 2 downloads recently from red rocks 06.20. 95..Falling Down and No Jeremy.....really good tunes,the No Jeremy song ,is a slow grovy burn of the original Jeremy.

The shows in Italy 2006 are just...special IMO....download all 5 gigs...make a mix....the 2 nights in Portugal are great as well,but IMO the Italian shows are the best from 2006.....there are also a few good sites for the artwork for 2006 as well.....pjbootstrading.org......Im a PJ freak..lol...have been since 1991...PM me if you want any gigs from 2008-present..I have them all....same goes to you Clover68....

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