1. True. The move to release "Who You Are" was probably not a mistake unlike, say, "Get On Your Boots" was for U2. PJ was probably in a place where they were, for lack of a better word, testing their fan-base to see who was really "with them." I have to admit, they sort of lost me for a short time - at least until Yield was released. I was overseas when I bought Yield and they were giving away No Code with it. It wasn't until then when I really started to appreciate many of the songs on that album. They also opened the show I attended in Auckland with "Sometimes" and "Hail, Hail" which I found really interesting - in a good way.
  2. Originally posted by RUMMYTrue. The move to release "Who You Are" was probably not a mistake unlike, say, "Get On Your Boots" was for U2. PJ was probably in a place where they were, for lack of a better word, testing their fan-base to see who was really "with them." I have to admit, they sort of lost me for a short time - at least until Yield was released. I was overseas when I bought Yield and they were giving away No Code with it. It wasn't until then when I really started to appreciate many of the songs on that album. They also opened the show I attended in Auckland with "Sometimes" and "Hail, Hail" which I found really interesting - in a good way.


    They no question lost me, for a bit, with No Code.After I heard the songs live (from No Code) I really liked them though.Sometimes,Red Mosquito,In My Tree,Off He Goes,Smile and Present Tense, are some of my favorite PJ tunes.

    My problem with No Code,Yield and to a lesser extent, Binaural,are the way the songs were recorded.They purposly dulled the sound.Some of the songs even sound like demos.I dont really listen, to the studio versions, of the aforementioned albums.I have LIVE only mixes, of those 3 releases, on my iPod.Try it for a comparison.

    If you listen to Red Mosquito live,(try Praha,06.14.00),then the studio version,its like 2 different songs.The drums,guitars and vocals fly out at you live. Sometimes (05.30.00 London,my gig !!!) was a great opener in 2000.Present Tense, live from Milan,06.22.2000 (my show) IMO,is THE version of this song and maybe their best ever live gig.Seriously,a fantastic gig.Not just because I was there.Given To Fly,live,has so my more energy than the studio version.Of The Girl, live from Milan 2000,just amazing groves from Mike.

    IMO, the songs from No Code and Yeild, are great songs,just way superior live.
  3. very happy you take examples from Milan gig one of my shows too .. and i agree with you about No code and Binaural .. a bit less about Yield
    but you can name examples of songs better in studio version than live? of course considering the best performance
    the Avocado for me is another album much more listenable live than studio.
    ok that the gap between studio and live for those 2 album is larger
    i'm not saying that studio the album are not great .. how could i .. i always listen to them with great pleasure
  4. Do you recommend live mixes in the order that they are listed on the actual album or do you have an alternative ordering of the tracks.

    I've completed my first drafts of Seattle 2000, Mexico 2003, and Italia 2006 two-disc compilations. They are much better than the five-disc set of just random gigs spanning from 1995 to 2010 that I mad ein June,
  5. Originally posted by clover68very happy you take examples from Milan gig one of my shows too .. and i agree with you about No code and Binaural .. a bit less about Yield
    but you can name examples of songs better in studio version than live? of course considering the best performance
    the Avocado for me is another album much more listenable live than studio.
    ok that the gap between studio and live for those 2 album is larger
    i'm not saying that studio the album are not great .. how could i .. i always listen to them with great pleasure


    The Milan show is just so great.Nothingman is off the charts.I love they way the crowd sing along during that tune,and all the others....
  6. Originally posted by RUMMYDo you recommend live mixes in the order that they are listed on the actual album or do you have an alternative ordering of the tracks.

    I've completed my first drafts of Seattle 2000, Mexico 2003, and Italia 2006 two-disc compilations. They are much better than the five-disc set of just random gigs spanning from 1995 to 2010 that I mad ein June,


    Depends.I like to mix the songs up usually. I dont like the order of the songs on Binaural.I think Of The Girl as the opening track is the way to go.Love the way it starts,its a slow burn live.Rival,Grievance,Gods Dice,Breakerfall,Evacuation,Insignificance,Light Years,Nothing As It Seems,Thin Air,Sleight Of Hand,Soon Forget,Parting Ways.

    I really like the way Of The Girl opened gigs in 2000.Try that mix with live versions from 2000 Tour.
  7. I'll give this a shot in the near future. I should take some time to actually listen to the mixes I've made. I feel like a drug addict.

    You two really seem to like the Europe 2000 shows. I haven't listen to those ones yet. Just wondering what is it about them that makes them so special.
  8. They are appealing to me.Its funny,my friend Chris,from London,doesnt listen to the London gigs much,that we attended.He loves the Jones Beach shows more,that we hit,at the end of the summer of 2000.The N.American gigs were great as well.The 3rd leg the band really put it in overdrive.But when I hear the Italian audience,singing word for word,durin Small Town or Nothingman,its just fantastic soundin to me.Hard to explain really.I love Europe.Been there dozens of times.Can't wait to go back in 2012.Its strange,each time I go there,U2 aren't on the road.Radiohead,PJ and Oasis are.Maybe Ill see Beady Eye next year in London.

  9. Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]

    Depends.I like to mix the songs up usually. I dont like the order of the songs on Binaural.I think Of The Girl as the opening track is the way to go.Love the way it starts,its a slow burn live.Rival,Grievance,Gods Dice,Breakerfall,Evacuation,Insignificance,Light Years,Nothing As It Seems,Thin Air,Sleight Of Hand,Soon Forget,Parting Ways.

    I really like the way Of The Girl opened gigs in 2000.Try that mix with live versions from 2000 Tour.


    If only because you own every bootleg from 2000, any thoughts as to which shows I would take these Binaural songs from? [edit] I've downloaded "Of The Girl" from Milan.

    Please feel free to do the same with any other album!

    And how about you, Ronnie? Any recommendations?
  10. do you mean best perfomances of Binaural songs in 2000 tour or in general?
    have to think of it a bit
  11. I was meaning Binaural songs but feel free to discuss "in general" too. I appreciate that this may take some time but your opinion here is valued.
  12. I will put a list up of all the songs from 2000 European Tour first.Then I can list songs from the other 2 legs.The band picked 18 shows,out of the 72,that they thought were the best.The back of the bootleg,has a small picture of an ape,and a man.These were referred to as the apeman shows.Ill list those as well.