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Originally posted by RUMMY:Yeah, "Bugs" is pretty out there - in a bad way.

I've reached a point with PJ, like U2, where I prefer listening to almost all of their tunes live as opposed to the studio versions - and they have played virtually all their songs (b-sides included) in a live venue at some point and time. No "Acrobat" or "Drowning Man" in PJ's bootlegs.

True.U2 have always been,IMO,very self concious about their live performances.That is why 90% of their setlists have always been the same.That is also a main reason for U2s lack of live releases.

PJ,along with Dave Matthews Band,are acts that are so confident in their live performances,they actually "wing it" with a song live.Example being many with PJ.At my Philly show,Oct 28,09,EV started Come Back,messed up and said "We will try it later...they can't kick us out"...lol..turned to Stone..and played the rare tune No Way...sayin "this is more tricky".

Later in the set EV walked up to Stone,then Mike and pointed at Matt."Let's do this one".GTF is played and played greatly.I think this was added,you can't tell on the boot,because GTF starts cd 2.IMO,it was played spur of the moment.Of course.this is one of my favorite live tunes.and I proceeded to freak out.

Later in the show.the band start Speed of Sound.EV messes up,stops the song and says " You don't see Bruce Springsteen making all these mistakes". Classic.What band would dare release all their gigs,warts and all ? This adds to the live element IMO.What a fantastic live band.

Raymond23

13 years

I have a bunch of the bootlegs, but the one that stays on the ipod is "The Experiment". 3 nights in Mansfield (7/2, 7/3, 7/11/2003). All official soundboards (7/11 available in CD form, the other 2 were dl only). They played every song that they had played over the whole tour with no repeats (except Yell82 songs plus 11 covers.ow Leadbetter). The whole thing back to back in about 8 hours, 82 songs plus 11 covers. Whole lot of rarities and they sound awesome.

Wish U2 would do something like this...

EDDMB

13 years

Originally posted by Raymond23:I have a bunch of the bootlegs, but the one that stays on the ipod is "The Experiment". 3 nights in Mansfield (7/2, 7/3, 7/11/2003). All official soundboards (7/11 available in CD form, the other 2 were dl only). They played every song that they had played over the whole tour with no repeats (except Yell82 songs plus 11 covers.ow Leadbetter). The whole thing back to back in about 8 hours, 82 songs plus 11 covers. Whole lot of rarities and they sound awesome.

Wish U2 would do something like this...

U2 have never,and will never do that.Actually,the Mansfield shows were all available on cd,from pearljam.com only.Unlike the 2000 tour,the 2003 shows were only available from pj.com.I bought a ton of shows on cd from 2003.Check out Champaign IL 04.23.03, Nassau 04.30.03,Chicago 06.18.03,East Troy 06.21.03 and Camden 07.05.03.

Of course, the 2 MSG shows from 2003 are also standouts.

The 2005 and 2006 tours were only available in mp3 form.

Raymond23

13 years

Thanks for clearing that up. I knew all the 2003 shows were only available from ph.com but thought they were dl only (I've never seen physical discs of these anywhere like e-bay but should take another look). I thought there were 6 shows (including Mansfield 3) that were in CD form and widely available...

And I know U2 would never do this. But it would be close if they released every song on the u22 ballot in one set...

EDDMB

13 years

Originally posted by Raymond23:Thanks for clearing that up. I knew all the 2003 shows were only available from ph.com but thought they were dl only (I've never seen physical discs of these anywhere like e-bay but should take another look). I thought there were 6 shows (including Mansfield 3) that were in CD form and widely available...

And I know U2 would never do this. But it would be close if they released every song on the u22 ballot in one set...

Yes,PJ did release, I think it was 6 shows maybe,at commercial music stores in 2003.But,IMO,those werent really the best gigs.Solid shows,no question.The MSG gigs were amazing.For some reason,I never really got into the Japan and Ausralian gigs from 2003.

There are so many great shows from 2003.To only release 6 commercially,you are leaving out some great gigs.Example being the Penn State gig from 2003.Commercial release.A solid gig,no question.But I believe the band played a much better show, in Buffalo, the day before,05.02.03.I forgot to list that one before.Its a 3cd set,like Penn.Its a mega marathon show,like Penn.30 tunes.Fantastic gig.I just feel,performance wise,its a better gig.Just my opinion of course.

EDDMB

13 years

This past week,I listened to the second leg of the 2000 tour.Its been a while since I listened to all these gigs.Just bits of some shows,other shows in their entirety.The N.American shows,for some reason,have a little bit of a better sound to them.Meaning,you can hear the bass and guitars a bit better,than the European cd's.They are also a bit louder.I noticed this when I mixed the Milan show with Jones Beach N3.

6 shows from Leg 2, that I strongly recommend are :

08.03.00 - Virginia Beach.This is the first show after the tragedy in Denmark.The first song, is a very emotional Long Road.The band are subdued,and the set is filled with somber tunes.Off He Goes sounds perfect here.Incredible rendition of Daughter.Ed sounds like hes singing to himself,saying Its Ok over and over.My favorite version of this classic.A solid show,but this show,really isnt on the same level,as the next 5 that I list.But,IMO,I think every fan should listen to this emotional show.

08.12.00 Tampa - Loud,aggressive gig.Great version of Tremor Christ,and the only N.American appearance of Garden.One of my favorite renditions of this great song.

08.21.00 Columbus - This is,IMO,is one of the heaviest gigs of the entire tour.Breakerfall,Whipping,STBC,Hail Hail and Corduroy open this wild show.My favorite version of In My Tree follows.Dissident,GTF and a great version of Nothing as it Seems.

08.25.00 Jones Beach N3 - This show,no question,is one of the highlights of the entire tour.If you love No Code,this is the one for you.Plus,a stellar version of Black.

09.01.00 Philly (Camden NJ) - Another favorite of mine.Very tight,energetic show.The only appearance of Breath.Ed announces,"OK fuckers.Its not gonna be perfect,but we will give it a try." They appear to "wing' Breath.Its not perfect,but I love the balls of this band.Mike goes wild during this whole gig.Great renditions of Present Tense and Red Mosquito.Simply put,a must have show.

09.05.00 Pitt - This show opens with Even Flow,that told me right off, this is gonna be a barnstormer.It is.A very energetic gig.This show closes the 2nd leg of the tour.A funny part, is when EV mentions the woman with the white umbrella.He calls her onstage.She tells Eddie shes been to over 100 shows.EV is like OMG.LOL.Her name is Amy,and she requests Wash.Yes,the band play it.Its the only time, on this great tour,that Wash is played.Then, EV says,'What the fuck" and the band play I Got You.Stone says 'Nothing like a little improv" afterwards.I love it when they do this.Very fun show,and a great way to end the 2nd leg.

Jones Beach N3, is the only show that has the Ape-Man designation.I,respecfully disagree,with some of the shows the band picked on this leg.

RUMMY

13 years

Would you be so kind to clarify what the six released shows from 2003 were?

Raymond23

13 years

Originally posted by RUMMY:Would you be so kind to clarify what the six released shows from 2003 were?

1) February 23, 2003 Perth, Australia
2) March 3, 2003 Tokyo, Japan
3) May 3, 2003 (Penn) State College, Pennsylvania,
4-5)July 8, 2003 and July 9, 2003 New York City
6) July 11, 2003 Mansfield, Massachusetts (The Experiement-Night 3)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam_Official_Bootlegs#2003_Official_Bootlegs

Looks like all had official CDs. These 6 in stores. The rest via PJ.com.

EDDMB

13 years

Originally posted by Raymond23:[..]

1) February 23, 2003 Perth, Australia
2) March 3, 2003 Tokyo, Japan
3) May 3, 2003 (Penn) State College, Pennsylvania,
4-5)July 8, 2003 and July 9, 2003 New York City
6) July 11, 2003 Mansfield, Massachusetts (The Experiement-Night 3)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam_Official_Bootlegs#2003_Official_Bootlegs

Looks like all had official CDs. These 6 in stores. The rest via PJ.com.

Yes,thats it.The band picked a show from each leg.Good,solid gigs.But I think if you download the shows I listed,some might agree there were much better shows than the first 3.The first 2 Mansfield gigs were amazing.07.02 and 07.03.03.The big July 11th gig is nothing short of brilliant.

I have a mad setlist that I can list tomorrow,from the 2000 North American Leg 2.......

Raymond23

13 years

Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]

The first 2 Mansfield gigs were amazing.07.02 and 07.03.03.The big July 11th gig is nothing short of brilliant.

And since every song played on that tour is on the Mansfield sets, and since they are all amazing quality and energy, I would say get those 3 and you have almost all the PJ you will ever need (OK, slight exageration...)

RUMMY

13 years

Is that actually true that every song was played from the 2003 tour in Mansfield? I had gone through the list and noticed that a few tracks were missing. Glorified G and Last Exit come to mind...maybe I need to take a closer look.

Raymond23

13 years

Originally posted by RUMMY:Is that actually true that every song was played from the 2003 tour in Mansfield? I had gone through the list and noticed that a few tracks were missing. Glorified G and Last Exit come to mind...maybe I need to take a closer look.

I never checked. Eddie did say on the album that there were about 105 songs, and there is 102 tracks on the set (including a double of Yellow Leadbetter and a few Encore Breaks). I think it care out to about 94 different songs, so they may have cheated...

Still great to have 3 concerts with (almost) no repeats.

Now, if U2 would stop the U22 vote and just release everything to us...

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