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  1. Originally posted by Malahide:Back from work reading the PJ forum, unbelievable the, lets call it, disappointment.
    Haven't got a forum id there, but what you all here think of this lottery system?

    In the first place, being member of a fanclub it's strange that you need to rely on a lottery for tickets, and not as with U2 when being a member almost guarantees you a ticket. Going even further, when you want to buy The Who tickets via their website in pre-sale, you can even buy the fanclub membership with the concert tickets.

    But the things I read there, people if they don't get 10c tickets, they won't go at all etc etc. I really don't understand that, there's still the general sale. Well, maybe no front row, but you still can be there and I don't think it's hard to get tickets for that large stadium. Most call themselves die hard fans from the start, but would a "real" fan just boycott a show because not winning in the ticket lottery?

    The thought just kept spinning in my head, ooooooo kept spinning

    As a longtime (13yrs) 10C member,I have stated my displeasure on here many many many times......lets put it this way,10C ticketing is a bad joke..I cant even compare it to Dave Matthews Bands Warehouse,its embarrassing as far as how little you get from them..90% of the time I simply dont get tickets..

    One time,in the past 13 yrs I was denied from the Warehouse..and both bands have insane,over the top,diehard fans,who attend multiple shows each tour,and in each city.....example - DMB sold out both nights at NYC's Citi Field,07.16 & 17,2010..I was selected for front GA both nights from the Warehouse..the shows sold out,over 40,000 per night......05.20 & 21,2010, I was denied both nights for PJ MSG shows,had to buy ok,blah tickets from Ticketmaster.

    U2s fanclub is also solid..senior members (me),get first dibs on tickets,and I always get very good seats....

    The best part is,if you are somehow lucky enough to get tickets,through the 10C,you dont know your seat locations until you pick them up at the 10C booth 2 hrs before the show... nothing like picking up the shittiest of seats in the house,when the show isnt even sold out (Newark,05.18.10)..thanks 10 C....dissatisfaction guaranteed.
  3. Uh oh.
  4. RNDM's long-term schedule may depend on Pearl Jam's; the band recently had a meeting with Brendan O'Brien and followed up on sessions a year ago in Stone Gossard's studio and has announced apair of summer dates. "There's a lot of ideas kind of floating around right now," says Ament. "I mean, the cool thing about taking a year away from Pearl Jam is, you know, we could almost start from scratch and it wouldn't really be that big of a deal, you know? I hope it comes out this year at some point. But, if it doesn't, we have another RNDM record ready. If RNDM's my band for the next year, I'm stoked."



    Hahahahahaha....."but if it doesnt,we have another RNDM record ready"..YEAH......Im glad Jeff is "stoked"........Im vexed.

  5. I'm going to give you that one!


  6. This is impressive yet absolutely dreadful at the same time.
  7. uhm the bothered ones are increasing in number .. it doesn't hurt me at all but that's not nice
    got it
  8. 2006-05-20 Quicken Loans Arena - Cleveland, OH

    Pre-Set: like sometimes happen Eddie comes out on stage for a short set so he can entertain the waiting crowd (it’s always good to go to the venue early .. you never know hehe), enjoy and warm-up himself and take confidence with the people there. Nice pre-set
    - Last Kiss: good so they don’t play later hehe
    - It Makes No Difference

    Main Set
    1- Better Man: Eddie wants to start the concert as an extension of his mini set and what a better way than Better Man? Sing along right from the beginning and audience soon deep into the atmosphere. Honest one though, no flaw no extra point.
    2- Given To Fly: the start is set in Grand Rapids way and the second is the same. This song has the peculiarity that wherever you put it works fine. Again the band play it well but with no surplus; it seems that the handbrake is not removed yet.
    3- World Wide Suicide: from the first note it’s clear that it’s the moment of block of 3. By now they owe it and they throw it with the energy it needs
    4- Life Wasted: Stone launch what it’s probably the best riff of the Avocado, so the order of the previous night is respected.
    5- Severed Hand: love the intro of this song, and even more the extended one when it opens the gig. jesus boys these songs work good together but begin to play them separated; great Matt doubling Eddie while doing his wild job on his drum-kit.
    6- Faithfull: till now, aside of Better Man/Small Town exactly the same set and this is the point to give Cleveland something particular. New entry from Yield introduced by the “swing” beat by Matt and the sweet chord. Very nice one. It’s not the song that can move the balance of a show but it’s good no doubt.
    7- Unemployable: good performance for a song that doesn’t deserve to be played almost each and every night for me
    8- Gone: Dissident is named and probably it would have been better to play it instead of Gone. I like it quite a lot but I would have preferred later on the set or in Unemployable’s place. Too much “promoting” hehe. Great atmosphere creating by all the 3 guitars .. Eddie’s arpeggio .. the flying notes of Mike .. the Stone gems. Eddie enough deep into the interpretation of the song.
    9- Daughter: acoustic Stone to launch a “working together” time .. “normal” Daughter till what defines the song live .. the shades go down the shades go and the pursuing riff says It’s OK ..well belt out by the crowd .. and well welcomed by someone here hehe. The tag comes out pretty good and all the components; enough good singing
    10- MFC: I’m enough biased of the mini fast cars, probably cause of its little Italian part behind it .. who knows .. love this quick riff tune that makes as bridge between Daughter and ….
    11- IMMORTALITY: nothing would be needed to be said .. it speaks by itself .. this is always a points gaining jolly of a gig. Cleveland is also delighted by the little sweet intro. Love it. And love the picking note by Mike after the first “immortality”. Wonderful the pulled long notes in the first part of the solo. Mike closed eyes fully and deeply in it who knows where. Very carrying the final ride. My addiction on this jewel is well known and so it’s obvious that it’s a top highlight for me.
    12- Lukin: cool and weird sequence Immortality->Lukin ..sooo different .. this fast hard punch is always good to have it in your stomach.
    13- Do The Evolution: the angry Eddie keeps going with the evolution baby and in pair with Stone drive the crowd to a little bit higher level in wild status. Solid powerful.
    14- Spin the Black Circle: Stone remains wild throwing a very pulled and very welcomed another new entry .. drop drop dropping it down. Eddie seems to have a bit of hard times in following the unrestrained pace set by the others hehe. Great
    15- Porch: to close the main set. An even slower start than usual, seemingly hint on guitar .. love it. Then the explosion of the second verse and the obvious long jam. Mike didn’t have Even Flow and he needs to release himself hehe amazing and amazing the engine with so many horses power Matt behind him and amazing Jeff picking on his strings.
    Encore 1
    16- Wasted Reprise: after the hard final sequence of the main set, it’s quite predictable a slow down and this little tune falls apropos opening the road to..
    17- Thumbing My Way: other new entry and a missing since this few times in 2006. Sweet delicate like always. This one from Cleveland doesn’t make exception.
    18- Inside Job: nice performance of this beautiful number, again Matt showing his skill in backing Eddie vocals.
    19- Black: another one that speaks by itself … Immortality .. Black in the same set?? Really? Awesome. All I will ever beeeeee .. close enough to the top .. whispered we belong together .. wonderful. Oh my if Immortality Black were back to back ….
    20- Alive: to close this short first encore. A decent one, a bit tired maybe, but about the Classic you’re always very very pretentious as they got us used.
    Encore 2:
    21- Go: the second encore don’t Go slowly on us; solid hard rock shot
    22- Comatose: second jab, less incisive than the other still very tough
    23- U: dr experiment seems to make his appearance a bit tonight too. He took some requests and the funny and easy b-side takes his spot in the set. You should take this kind of song as they come and I love when they do .. like …
    24- Don’t Gimme No Lips: someone in the crowd wanted Stoney to take all the spotlight and the duck pick the main mic, transforming himself in a “special guest”. What can be said of this song? It’s good if the beloved Stoney wants to have and let have people fun. And he does .. love you Stone hehe
    25- Smile: kind of experiment goes on with again the special guest Stone on bass and the special guest Jeff on lead guitar hehe. No Code Smile that’s it. Both the long date friends did a good job on each other instrument giving a good one of this mid-tempo I like a lot.
    26- Why Go: Matt “ruins the party” leading all to normality beating the start of this powerful song; not at its best as I feel it.
    27- Fucking Up: the frequent Uncle Neil tribute this time falls to this, a bit slower but still always a very good rocking in the free Cleveland. The solos of Mike are very close to the perfection.
    28- Yellow Ledbetter: this never-ending encore comes to the conclusion with the classic McCready hail.

    I find pretty hard to rate this gig; a weird enough one. The first half the main set put it to a standard/averag, but the second, since lets say Daughter, raises to a different and very high level. Similar thing for the encores .. first not so great if not for the Black presence, second long and with the weirdness I love so much. For my side the rate would fluctuate from 4 to 4 ½.
    The contemporary presence of Immortality and Black in the same set pins the needle to the highest extreme of the range.

    Highlights: IMMORTALITY - Black – Daughter – Spin The Black Circle – MFC – Porch – Mid part of 2nd encore

    Rating: 4 1/2


    (sorry for not having been enough long )
  9. Great review Ron....I enjoyed it....but...why so short ???


    lol
  10. Originally posted by clover68:
    9- Daughter: acoustic Stone to launch a “working together” time .. “normal” Daughter till what defines the song live .. the shades go down the shades go and the pursuing riff says It’s OK ..well belt out by the crowd .. and well welcomed by someone here hehe.


    Yes indeed!!!!!!
  11. Cleveland,OH 05.20.06

    Show starts off with a surprise..Better Man opens.Much applause for the classic,and the crowd run with the opening chorus....solid version.Another classic,GTF follows..nice way to start this gig,one night after the epic Grand Rapids show.Ed's voice sounds good,he goes after the main chorus,and belts it out stongly.

    The 3some of WWS,LW and SH sound good,but they needed to be broken up..this album wasnt strong enough to have 3 of the best tunes played all at once.

    Faithfull is a nice addition,I always enjoyed this tune,and like all the songs off Yeild (and No Code),they are superior sounding live...

    Unemployable = boring,and sounds off....another long speech..skip please..

    Gone is a decent tune,bad placement...

    This average set takes a turn for the better here.Daughter sounds great,“It’s OK” returns as a Daughter tag (at a slightly higher pitch than previous versions) with the entire band playing a slightly different arrangement.Great buildup.Ed modifies the lyrics somewhat,“This is my plea / this is my need / this is my time for standing free / this is my stand / in this world so demanding of me”.

    MFC is a good tune,decent version.Solo sounded a little bit off.Go would have been preferable here for me.But I'll take anything from No Code/Yeild,and run with it.No complaints.

    Immortality has always been a favorite song of mine.A classic.No,it isnt as great as Verona,Italy 06.20.00,(or Pitt 04.26.03)...hard to top that version...still very solid here,I like Ed's slow intro....

    Lukin > Evolution is a great combo..and picks the pace up...solid versions... Ed gets a big roar from the crowd during Evolution with the lyric change “Those ignorant Indians .. they’re a great team, right ?”

    Spin The Black Circle speaks for itself...the classic continues this great heavy run....

    The main sets ends,just as things are getting good.The Cleveland Cavaliers and the Detroit Pistons were playing each other in the NBA playoffs,so Ed was having some fun.A wild 10 min Porch includes some fun band intros,“on bass, and rooting for the Cleveland Cavaliers,Mr. Jeff Ament” and “the engine with so many horsepower there’s no number,Matt Cameron on the drumkit”,“from the jungle to Cleveland, Mr. Boom Gasper on the B3″, and “sometimes you don’t pick your friends,but he’s one of my best friends,Stone Gossard on guitar”.And thats it..around 65 min set ??? IMO,a main set should not fit on a single cd,this one does.

    Encore 1

    Wasted Rerise/Thumbing My Way..this is decent...but not what I would be looking for,if I was in attendance..Thumbing My Way is played for the only time during the first leg of this tour.Ed continues to have fun with the rivalry,and says that “it’s interesting,the place we go next is Detroit and we’re in no hurry…” which starts mucho booing and Ed picks up on an anti-Detroit chant,“I got it … I can’t repeat it because of the bootlegs and all,Detroit will get a hold of it.I can say it once,"Pistons Suck’” to loud cheers

    Inside Job is one of the better tunes on PJ,BUT I prefer it during the main set ....Black is amazing (as usual),with the We Belong Together tag at the end..solid version of Alive ends encore 1.

    Encore 2

    A rockin version of Go kicks off the 2nd encore.I like this tune better in the main set,but its great so I always take it.Ed wants to buy everyone a drink,for being such a good crowd and plea's for the arena staff to “open up the beer stands”.

    U, “Don’t Gimme No Lip” and “Smile” have the band “taking care of a couple of requests that (they’ve) been seeing” so far on Leg One.Besides the great Smile,tho other 2 are fillers IMO.Yes,Stone singing is always fun..but the tune is below average.

    Why Go always sounds good... I love it,and Fuckin Up is always welcomed over RITFW.

    YL ends it.....


    4 Stars


    Very short main set,just over an hour.15 tunes,and one of them (Lukin) is only 45 seconds.From Daughter > Porch this set is solid,but needed more.Smile,Why Go and Black could have been played during the main set,and raised the bar on this odd show.Encore was ok,some below average tunes in there,Comatose is not exactly Jeremy or RVM now is it.....

    Highlights : Daughter (ITS OK),IMMORTALITY,Lukin > Evolution,STBC,BLACK,SMILE and Fucking Up.
  12. yeah Cleveland was quite odd in terms of "fluidity" .. short main set .. normal at first half very great after .. short first encore but with Black hehe .. long second encore ..
    pretty wrong-footing (if it's the right word) hehe
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