1. Originally posted by RUMMY:[..]


    I think you're right on that one, Ron. I think they figured out that one on their own - and even though Ten and Vs sold better than all the rest, are they really THAT commercial?

    I read somewhere that Cobain was a hypocrite himself where deep down he wanted to make hits - just in his own way.

    I think Nirvana released two, fantasitic, five-star albums. They are both classics and are/were definitely influential, both musically and commercially. I cannot knock them one bit. However, I appreciate your comments, Ed, about Cobain's inability to be a good father...hey, maybe it was THAT disappointment in himself that truly led to his demise.

    I won't even get started on Courtney Love - at least as a human being - although some of Hole's music did rock - if only because it was heavily influenced by Cobain, and later Billy Corgan.


    Kurt is one of the most controversial character on the scene for sure.
    he never searched for a "hit" even though he put some little "pop" ingredients .. mostly the sound was rounded post production, both for Nevermind and In Utero, when he got sick of all the attempt od imposition after the conclusion of the recording. Butch Vig production and mix are much more rough than the final result. same thing for In Utero maybe even more .. and the live versions testisfy that.

    ...that truly led to his demise.
    .. if things went in that official way for real ...

    ok ok i stop there's another topic where discuss and talk about Kurt (and Nirvana of course) hehe
  2. after all the thoughts about live are better the studio album i was wondering which are the cases of the opposite .. i can't admittely find one .. talking about REAL rock band of course hehe
  3. tonight Brad Europe journey is starting .. 2 weeks since tomorrow for me
  4. Originally posted by clover68:after all the thoughts about live are better the studio album i was wondering which are the cases of the opposite .. i can't admittely find one .. talking about REAL rock band of course hehe

    I tend to listen to the first 2 albums,and even Vitalogy alot..I almsot never listen to No Code,Yeild and Binaural.The live versions are are so much better.

    Riot Act,PJ and Backspacer actually sound clean,loud and crisp to me...
  5. Originally posted by clover68:after all the thoughts about live are better the studio album i was wondering which are the cases of the opposite .. i can't admittely find one .. talking about REAL rock band of course hehe

    I have no problem with PJ's studio albums (especially the first five - even No Code and Yield) but I've listened to them all so many times I'm almost tired of the studio versions. The live versions give new life to these songs. I love hearing EV's voice strain, the crowds cheering during and between songs, the flow from a classic song from Ten go directly into a classic from Vs or Vitalogy.

    This is also true for most of the other bands that I listen to...I haven't listened to albums like War, Definitely Maybe, The Bends, or In Utero in ages - I've given them enough spins for one lifetime. However, I listen to Red Rocks, Live at the Metro, MTV Ten Spot, and that Roma concert where most of the songs from the aforementioned albums are played, They sound great and have songs from other sources mixed in!
  6. You see, I've never got tired of the studio albums, yet. I love the Vitalogy sound and, like you said Matt, Eddie's vocal strain.Listening to Blood just makes you think: how in God's name can Eddie's scream like that?! I can still listen to Ten and Vs. too. But, I do agree with Ed when he says that the sound on Yield, and especially No Code, sound like shit. Terribly produced with Eddie mumbling all over No Code. I struggle to listen to both of those albums through headphones. I'm not tired of them as such, there's just specific things I can't stand about the album. The songs are great, however.
  7. Originally posted by KieranU2:You see, I've never got tired of the studio albums, yet. I love the Vitalogy sound and, like you said Matt, Eddie's vocal strain.Listening to Blood just makes you think: how in God's name can Eddie's scream like that?! I can still listen to Ten and Vs. too. But, I do agree with Ed when he says that the sound on Yield, and especially No Code, sound like shit. Terribly produced with Eddie mumbling all over No Code. I struggle to listen to both of those albums through headphones. I'm not tired of them as such, there's just specific things I can't stand about the album. The songs are great, however.

    Its a shame they were recored that way..so many great tunes,and they sound awful..

    Given To Fly studio sounds like a demo...
  8. So does Sometimes, and that really annoys me because it's a fantastic song which would sound so deep and ambient if it were recorded properly.
  9. I love "Sometimes."

    I have been listening to the two San Diego 1995 shows - great performances, good sound but definitely not great. These shows need a remaster for sure. Also, I saw that these were part of a Monkeywrench Radio compilation (about six shows from the west coast from that year). Are these the same versions that are available at pearljambootlegs.org?
  10. Hey Matt..is it me,or are we seriously falling behind with our review of the 2006 tour ?

    Looks like we might get a foot (or more) of snow here in NYC..
  11. I think we got two feet of snow!

    Poor, Ron, He's having trouble keeping up - and, correct me if I'm wrong, he's not on here very much throughout the weekend. Maybe we should post the next one to really put the pressure on him.

    (Ron, I'm just having fun - obviously I know you'll read this.)
  12. 2 FEET ?...You Canadians are used to that much snow..lol

    Here in NYC....its full panic mode if we get more than 3 inches,so I'm having some nice red wine,and listening to theJWB remastered Berlin boot from '96...got my Bose headphones on.. sounds so much better,great job byJWB with these boots...sounds incredible