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  1. Originally posted by clover68:uhm i'm not agree .. musically some songs could have some little grunge features but i think they're mostly alternative gothic rock and pop too in such a way.

    there's not a great grunge attitude here, uh?

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    anyway the Pumpkins was a very good band and Mellon Collie a great album


    It was their transition to "goth" that I think turned me off the band...

    I will always consider Siamese Dream one of the greatest albums ever made.

    Oh shit, we're in a PJ thread!
  2. Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:[..]

    Grunge

    And yes, I agree with you. And whoever said MCIS and Siamese Dream were the only things you need by them, shame on you...certain tracks from Gish and Pieces Iscariot are essential, and so is Adore.


    I said it.

    Those two albums are all you need to start. I stand by that statement - somewhat.

    I have added that "Starla" (a "Disarm" b-side and from Pisces Iscariot) and "Set The Ray To Jerry" (a "1979" b-side and on their Rotten Apples bonus disc) are essential, so yes, I am contradicting myself. So I'll rephrase and say the Siamese Dream and MC&TIS era is all you really need.

    I find Gish to be a dull record. I've tried to get into it but it just doesn't work for me. Adore has a few good tracks at the start but the rest is crap... I've giving it many, many listens...it's where Billy Corgan lost himself - and never found his way back.
  4. first clip from the documentary "Pearl Jam Twenty" coming out in september

    Mookie->Pearl Jam
  6. very nice jam session


  7. From "album of the day"

    I think the access to digital downloading over the last ten or so years hurt my "relationship" with Pearl Jam. I always got a hold of the singles but never got into the albums. To be honest, I didn't even buy Binaural and Riot Act unitl 2006 when I picked up their self-titled album. I now like - but don't love - Binaural but still have never taken the time to get into Riot Act. I listened to "avocado" quite a bit when it first came out but not much since - I must give Backspacer a second chance.

    I'm going to be busy.
  8. the digital downloading or Matt Cameron? kidding for the fact your "reletionship" had a break just since Binaural.
    i know some historical fans that got disappointment since let's say 2003. mainly it was cause of the rearviewmirror realease. they were accused to sell themselves to the mainstream and to no-fans, but Lost dogs is from the same period and it's directed to the fans. and some other choices are criticized; the last 2 albums too.
    what i think about the second decade is that it has got NOT the same magic of the 90's, but this is a general music thought of mine. other times other way of living and thinking music both by the bands and the fans.
    but this is not only a PJ matter.
    about their production in the 00's i think Riot Acts is the last "almost a masterpiece" album, not comparable to the first 3 or Yield (No code is a little below). it has loads of wonderful pieces of music. it deserves full attention i think.
    the Avocado i've just said i can't get into it.
    Backspacer is a very good album for me, mainly "easy" rock, but in this field it has some very good songs. and from it emerge something like The fixer, Got some, Amongst the waves and .. Just breathe, i love this song so sweet so touching.
    and then in the 00's we've got those "little" jewels of the Gorge setbox and Benaroya Hall live.
    full of great things since the 2000.
    and always in my opinion lots of old and mainly new bands have still got something to learn from PJ .. without talking the live part

    (i excluded by purpose the Eddie's Into the wild even if i like it very much and so the movie, but it's a side thing)


    i think you are but it's all worthed


  9. If I had to state my favourite, non-U2 drummer of all time, it would probably be Matt Cameron. I was/am a big Soundgarden fan, too.

    Didn't they release "Reviewmirror" to get out of a record contract? It may have semmed like a "sell out" to fans but I've always thought that it's one of the most comprehensive Greatest Hits albums out there.
  10. Matt is one of the best drummers all around for sure. maybe he fits better in Soundgarden but also with PJ he's great, live is extraordinary with old songs too.
    for the studio part my favourite PJ drummer is Dave Abbruzzese but it depends mostly on the records he got involved maybe.

    yes you're right rearviewmirror is a sort of debt they had with the old label and it gives a significative overview of their works till 2003; i like the separation between the up and down side.
    it's a very good start for the ones who don't know them
  11. Before I start (re)listening to PJ's 2000's albums, I feel I have to revisit the second-half of No Code. That album is certainly the weakest of the five albums they released in the '90s but I think it deserves another listen. I like really like four of the first six tracks (Smile's okay, Who You Are was a bold, but in the end, poor choice as a first single - should've been In My Tree) but lost interest in the songs after that...I can't believe that albums is 15 years old!
  12. Report on No Code's second half: Still don't love it. Lukin is pretty intense...Habit is a good rocker...Mankind is solid...

    Working on 1990's b-sides right now (not Yellow Ledbetter - know that one very well). Dead Man is great. Was that from the movie Dead Man Walking with Sean Penn? I really like Long Orad - I actually own the Merkin Ball EP. U is a bit lyrically cheesey but good musically. Drity Frank am not so sure about.
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