1. And he married my girlfriend Katy Perry...what a tool



    As long as he keeps his mitts off my girlfriend (Cheryl Cole)
  2. Sad news, my heart goes out to the family - who knew this was a long time coming.
  3. Originally posted by jcvertigo06:The thing I just can't stand in this situations is the way the media turns whoever singer/musician found dead this way, into legend, as if dying this way was a honorable way to die, or worthy of being remembered.

    People who cause their own death because of years and years of bad habits and vice shouldn't be treated like heroes or victims or music myths, they should be treated like morons.

    There you go Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Brian Jones. Yeah, they were music icons, but to me they're more like the shame of music history. A bunch of people who couldn't love theirselves enough to realize when it's too much of killing theirselves every day with every drink, with every sniff. Or perhaps a bunch of people who loved theirselves too much....they became so selfish that they couldn't stop their trip to hell just for the thought they could share a lifetime of their talent in the years to come. For them, it was all more about rock star living style than music itself. For me, they're not music heroes, they're music cowards.

    I understand there's more in the life of an artist than one as a fan can only see, but come on! They're artists, they have no difficulties to keep up with everyday needs, unlike less fortunate people who really do.

    Carlos Santana. He was a junkie in the 60's, but did he kill himself out of drinking/LSD abuse? He'd rather share a lifetime of his guitar talent. Metallica. They were really hard into drinking; they'd rather finish the band than finishing themselves. Adam Clayton. He really was into alcohol and pot, but did he give up? He restarted himself and here he is 18 years later making us all happy with his band.

    We all have problems here and there, but it's all about cojones, it's all about having the guts to face whatever is troubling your mind, or at least, not leting the thing kill you.

    May Amy rests in peace. There's always a choice. She just chose not to choose.










    You shouldn't generalize so much. Depression is something that those who don't experience can't understand how much it can bring you down. Depression + lots of money doesn't and can't solve underlying problems. Look at Cobain, plenty of money, but still couldn't be happy.

    It's not cowardice, it's not being able to fight the inner demons that nobody else can see is what did some of them in.

    And for Adam Clayton and his giving up pot... you're just advancing the idea that pot is bad. Do you really think he doesn't smoke anymore? The main reason it's considered bad is because of it's illegal status, which is based in racist beginings... and thanks to Nixon. It's not even addicting. I'm going to assume you don't know any of the background of the plan since you posted that. Smoking cigarettes is much worse in pretty much every way, addicting, cancer, bad breath, and all the other bad things. Please look up actual facts on things before assuming. People don't die from LSD use either, or any other hallucinogens, it's the impurities from being improperly made and handled that causes major side effects.
  4. Originally posted by jcvertigo06:The thing I just can't stand in this situations is the way the media turns whoever singer/musician found dead this way, into legend, as if dying this way was a honorable way to die, or worthy of being remembered.

    People who cause their own death because of years and years of bad habits and vice shouldn't be treated like heroes or victims or music myths, they should be treated like morons.

    There you go Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Brian Jones. Yeah, they were music icons, but to me they're more like the shame of music history. A bunch of people who couldn't love theirselves enough to realize when it's too much of killing theirselves every day with every drink, with every sniff. Or perhaps a bunch of people who loved theirselves too much....they became so selfish that they couldn't stop their trip to hell just for the thought they could share a lifetime of their talent in the years to come. For them, it was all more about rock star living style than music itself. For me, they're not music heroes, they're music cowards.

    I understand there's more in the life of an artist than one as a fan can only see, but come on! They're artists, they have no difficulties to keep up with everyday needs, unlike less fortunate people who really do.

    Carlos Santana. He was a junkie in the 60's, but did he kill himself out of drinking/LSD abuse? He'd rather share a lifetime of his guitar talent. Metallica. They were really hard into drinking; they'd rather finish the band than finishing themselves. Adam Clayton. He really was into alcohol and pot, but did he give up? He restarted himself and here he is 18 years later making us all happy with his band.

    We all have problems here and there, but it's all about cojones, it's all about having the guts to face whatever is troubling your mind, or at least, not leting the thing kill you.

    May Amy rests in peace. There's always a choice. She just chose not to choose.




    People who are utterly ignorant about mental illness probably shouldn't comment about it. They just end up looking pretty douchey.
  5. Originally posted by jcvertigo06:The thing I just can't stand in this situations is the way the media turns whoever singer/musician found dead this way, into legend, as if dying this way was a honorable way to die, or worthy of being remembered.

    People who cause their own death because of years and years of bad habits and vice shouldn't be treated like heroes or victims or music myths, they should be treated like morons.

    There you go Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain, ...



    I am (or at least was) a big fan of Nirvana and they were BIG when then came on the scene in 1991 with Nevermind and, more specifically, "Smeels Like Teen Spirit.' However, there was quite a bit of backlash when In Utero came out and his life became more about the "circus" (drug use, married to Courtney Love, ...) than the music. Then Kurt Cobain shot himself and all of a sudden became a "rock god." I became very cynical about how the media protrays celebrities from that moment on. It's tough to predict what would have become of Kurt Cobain and Nirvana but in 1993, I have to admit they seemed to be on the decline - at least in terms of "popularity."

    I hope my above statements are "clear." I am not trying to say being "popular" is better - I prefer In Untero to Nevermind. I just don't think they would have aged as well as they have if they continued to make music together - at least to the general public. Many "kids" today love Nirvana. They probably would as much if they were still around.
  6. Damn 27 club.
  7. You gotta say it wasnt that much of a surprise,perhaps the fact she went so young is what people are shocked at.She was certainly original and had a great voice even though i'm not a fan of that type of music,it was good of Bono to give her a mention the other night.
    It just makes you wonder how Keith Richards does it.
  8. Originally posted by kezman:You gotta say it wasnt that much of a surprise,perhaps the fact she went so young is what people are shocked at.She was certainly original and had a great voice even though i'm not a fan of that type of music,it was good of Bono to give her a mention the other night.
    It just makes you wonder how Keith Richards does it.


    I have determined Mr. Richards is immortal.
  9. The amazing thing is the way the media rather regrets the death of a junkie than those 100 people being wasted by a psycho