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  1. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:I know you guys are anti-gun, but for some reason I feel, you don't support the guys, who didn't even wait for the body's to cool before starting to push their anti-gun agenda. We can argue later. This is first and foremost the time to grieve.

    Well, I think it'd be good if a crazy person like this one couldn't go buy a gun, there'd be less shootings. I think it could possibly have negative short term effects, for reasons you'd point out. It'd be good in the long run though.
  2. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:I know you guys are anti-gun, but for some reason I feel, you don't support the guys, who didn't even wait for the body's to cool before starting to push their anti-gun agenda. We can argue later. This is first and foremost the time to grieve.

    I agree that is insensitive...
    However you guys should find a time to have a true talk about your guns situation, everyone forgets about it until a disaster happens and then it's too soon to talk about it until everyone forgets about it again.
  3. I think you should wait till the bodies are in the ground before disarming people who have nothing to do with this. The vast majority of people who legally purchase a gun will never do anything like this.

    Improved psych services would serve us better.
  4. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:I think you should wait till the bodies are in the ground before disarming people who have nothing to do with this. The vast majority of people who legally purchase a gun will never do anything like this.

    Improved psych services would serve us better.

    Yeah, but I think the few who will do something like this will do much more damage than the good citizens with guns. It's better when it's the state that has a monopoly on violence.
  5. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    Yeah, but I think the few who will do something like this will do much more damage than the good citizens with guns. It's better when it's the state that has a monopoly on violence.

    Keeping the state from having a monopoly on violence is why we have the 2nd amendment.

    You assume criminals will follow the law. They wont.
  7. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Keeping the state from having a monopoly on violence is why we have the 2nd amendment.

    You assume criminals will follow the law. They wont.

    Actually I'm not assuming that at all.

  8. This doesn't mean that having gun control is no use. It actually means nothing. If you want to make that point you should bring up examples of countries with gun control where school children are murdered by a gunman...and you'll probably find examples too, then you should compare the number of times it has happened and the frequency to what you have in the US....then you can make a case.
  9. Switzerland has about a gun for every 2 citizens, and one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

  10. Much more restrictive gun laws though. They have loads of gun because pretty much every man is in the militia and has been trained on guns. It's not anyone getting a gun. If that was the case in the U.S. the situation would probably be much better. Anyway... Switzerland is not a valid argument for you here.
  11. Dude, can we wait like three days to have this arguement? The coroners report hasen't even been filed yet.
  12. Sure, talk about something else. I'm not sure it's really that insensitive to talk about how horrible things can be prevented though.

    I've had two very good days.
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