1. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    Yeah, but I think the few who will do something like this will do much more damage than the good citizens with guns. It's better when it's the state that has a monopoly on violence.

    Keeping the state from having a monopoly on violence is why we have the 2nd amendment.

    You assume criminals will follow the law. They wont.
  2. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Keeping the state from having a monopoly on violence is why we have the 2nd amendment.

    You assume criminals will follow the law. They wont.

    Actually I'm not assuming that at all.

  3. This doesn't mean that having gun control is no use. It actually means nothing. If you want to make that point you should bring up examples of countries with gun control where school children are murdered by a gunman...and you'll probably find examples too, then you should compare the number of times it has happened and the frequency to what you have in the US....then you can make a case.
  4. Switzerland has about a gun for every 2 citizens, and one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

  5. Much more restrictive gun laws though. They have loads of gun because pretty much every man is in the militia and has been trained on guns. It's not anyone getting a gun. If that was the case in the U.S. the situation would probably be much better. Anyway... Switzerland is not a valid argument for you here.
  6. Dude, can we wait like three days to have this arguement? The coroners report hasen't even been filed yet.
  7. Sure, talk about something else. I'm not sure it's really that insensitive to talk about how horrible things can be prevented though.

    I've had two very good days.
  8. Two good days? I had a good week.

  9. Well they do protect the pope =P

    Anyway it would be nice if complete idiots could not get a gun at each street corner.

    Why is it allowed for everyone to have guns, except other countries? Guess you are not bothered with Iran having nukes then
  10. Originally posted by Risto:[..]

    Well they do protect the pope =P

    Anyway it would be nice if complete idiots could not get a gun at each street corner.

    Why is it allowed for everyone to have guns, except other countries? Guess you are not bothered with Iran having nukes then

    The American gov can't keep criminals from getting drugs. What makes you think they'll be so much better at keeping guns out of their hands?

    When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

    I'm done with this topic.