1. Philip Seymour Hoffman may have been many things, but a mediocre actor he most certainly was not. He obviously had his demons and problems, but mediocrity wasn't one of them. He was a supremely talented and, alas, tragic man who made an ultimately destructive decision, but for you to disparage him as mediocre (if, indeed, it's Hoffman you're talking about, Aaron) is plainly ridiculous. Feel free to condemn his choices - while you probably don't struggle with addiction and all the terrible consequences it can bring - but to dismiss the man as mediocre is plainly worng.
  2. If I (or anyone, not famous) died of my own stupid decisions, would anyone give a fuck?
  3. You, in particular? Probably not, no. You're missing the point, though. Your opinion on the circumstances of his death is one thing, and one you're entitled to, but to call him a mediocre actor is just ridiculous.
  4. Also, to be so dismissive of people with serious problems who clearly need help is hardly a virtuous attribute for a policeman to have. You may say that a policeman's duty is to enforce the law, but a rozzer without compassion is a pretty worthless individual.
  5. Originally posted by thejonner:You, in particular? Probably not, no. You're missing the point, though. Your opinion on the circumstances of his death is one thing, and one you're entitled to, but to call him a mediocre actor is just ridiculous.

    An uncle of mine died of a drug overdose. Was his life worth less?
  6. Originally posted by thejonner:Also, to be so dismissive of people with serious problems who clearly need help is hardly a virtuous attribute for a policeman to have. You may say that a policeman's duty is to enforce the law, but a rozzer without compassion is a pretty worthless individual.

    I care about others problems. I'm just practical about it. I help those I can. That means, people I know, and whose problems I can handle before they get out of control. A dead actor does not fall into that purview.

    Full disclosure, I'm hoping to get a job, with a fish and game agency. Animals are easier to understand than people.
  7. Your uncle's life had as much worth as anyone else's, Aaron. I, too, have had family members die due to drugs and I've not been without my own issues way back - not everyone gets through it. Or, rather, they don't get through it in a good way. Again, though, you're missing the point - when people express their shock at the sudden death of an artist whose work they admire - whatever the circumstances of that death - it doesn't reflect well on another person to be as airily dismissive as you were. Regardless of your view of Hoffman's life - or Heath Ledger, Kurt Cobain or even your uncle, for that matter - and death, posting something in order to get a reaction (congratulations on that one, by the way) is pretty tasteless and juvenile. If you've nothing nice to say, why bother saying anything? Keep that stuff between yourself and your friends. Personally speaking, I find Hoffman's death to be a sad waste of a life, the passing of an awesome talent, far too soon. You're right, though - you pretty much know where you are with animals.
  8. Originally posted by thejonner:Your uncle's life had as much worth as anyone else's, Aaron. I, too, have had family members die due to drugs and I've not been without my own issues way back - not everyone gets through it. Or, rather, they don't get through it in a good way. Again, though, you're missing the point - when people express their shock at the sudden death of an artist whose work they admire - whatever the circumstances of that death - it doesn't reflect well on another person to be as airily dismissive as you were. Regardless of your view of Hoffman's life - or Heath Ledger, Kurt Cobain or even your uncle, for that matter - and death, posting something in order to get a reaction (congratulations on that one, by the way) is pretty tasteless and juvenile. If you've nothing nice to say, why bother saying anything? Keep that stuff between yourself and your friends. Personally speaking, I find Hoffman's death to be a sad waste of a life, the passing of an awesome talent, far too soon. You're right, though - you pretty much know where you are with animals.

    Wasen't trying to get a reaction. Just stating an opinion. When a famous person ODs, it is seen as tragic. When a regular Joe ODs, its seen as pathetic.
  9. Anyone around for a chat? I've got nothing to do and a U2 bootleg playing...would love to simply catch up with some people!
  10. I'm present.
  11. How are things in Michigan, Aaron? You guys getting a lot of snow this week?

    I haven't looked outside in a little while but I guess where I'm at it's gonna get pretty bad tonight (north-central Indiana)
  12. On another note - man I love the low-key versions of Staring at the Sun tacked onto Discotheque during the Elevation tour. So trippy and fun.

    Calgary night 1 had a great crowd singalong on it, listening to the boot now.