1. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:I can't believe that in the year 2016 all over the world the populist speech of state protectionism, nationalism, xenophobia and isolationism is winning.
    Yes, we live in times of crisis, but turning your back to the problems of the world is not going to solve anything.
    So congrats, you wanted to go back to 1930's politics, because it was such "exciting times".

    “No man is an island,
    Entire of itself,
    Every man is a piece of the continent,
    A part of the main”
    John Donne
    Yeah, cause internationalism had no drawbacks and was just peachy.
  2. It far outweighs its problems. The benefits of economical, commercial and security cooperation are there in plain sight.
    How is that worse to the opposite: a politic of fear, populism, a country isolated and blaming all the problems on foreigners.
    You think "internationalism" is going to solve all problems? No, but it's a start, and it's the only way in a globalized world.
  3. Is this discussion is going to go the way of the politics thread?
  4. I'm still reeling from us leaving the EU. Wales is the poorest nation in the UK and we get a lot of funding from the EU and yet we voted out. Just mad. Only 5 out of the 22 counties in Wales voted for remain...

    *sigh*

  5. Originally posted by Welsh_Edge:I'm still reeling from us leaving the EU. Wales is the poorest nation in the UK and we get a lot of funding from the EU and yet we voted out. Just mad. Only 5 out of the 22 counties in Wales voted for remain...

    *sigh*

    Expect referendums in Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland about leaving the UK.

    What's more bizarre is that the problems and financial crisis Europe faces have other culprits: ruthless and corrupt banks, terrorism, fear-mongering politicians at both sides of the Atlantic. But hey, let's leave the EU because those damn immigrants.


  6. Says it all.
  7. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:[..]
    Expect referendums in Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland about leaving the UK.

    What's more bizarre is that the problems and financial crisis Europe faces have other culprits: ruthless and corrupt banks, terrorism, fear-mongering politicians at both sides of the Atlantic. But hey, let's leave the EU because those damn immigrants.


    Wales will never become independent, unless something incredible happens. There's not enough demand for it. I think only 3% of the population want Wales to become independent, the last time I checked.
  8. This is the big kicker. Those who want to leave will be unlikely to see the benefits whilst the young are seeing their future being restricted by their elders.

    Such a shame.
  9. It doesn't matter that older people elected for Leave and that young people went for Remain, that's democracy for you. It's terrifying that we're leaving the EU, now it puts Scotland in such an uncertain light. I don't know how I feel about another independence referendum, it's probably a good idea, but we're going to toil in many shapes and forms regardless of what happens.
  10. Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]
    This is the big kicker. Those who want to leave will be unlikely to see the benefits whilst the young are seeing their future being restricted by their elders.

    Such a shame.
    It's a global epidemic. The youth are restricted by elders, the older are misguided by the fear, and the media just recklessly helps stoke the fire.

    This decision will have repercussions on a global scale.