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Originally posted by cesar_garza01:This is the level of information people had while voting out of the EU:

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced pic.twitter.com/1q4VAX3qcm
— GoogleTrends (@GoogleTrends) June 24, 2016

not surprising if some of this is true

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-how-the-results-compare-to-the-uks-educated-old-an/

Welsh_Edge

9 years

Originally posted by cesar_garza01:[..]
Expect referendums in Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland about leaving the UK.

What's more bizarre is that the problems and financial crisis Europe faces have other culprits: ruthless and corrupt banks, terrorism, fear-mongering politicians at both sides of the Atlantic. But hey, let's leave the EU because those damn immigrants.

Wales will never become independent, unless something incredible happens. There's not enough demand for it. I think only 3% of the population want Wales to become independent, the last time I checked.

germcevoy

9 years

Originally posted by Remy:[image]

Says it all.

This is the big kicker. Those who want to leave will be unlikely to see the benefits whilst the young are seeing their future being restricted by their elders.

Such a shame.

KieranU2

9 years

It doesn't matter that older people elected for Leave and that young people went for Remain, that's democracy for you. It's terrifying that we're leaving the EU, now it puts Scotland in such an uncertain light. I don't know how I feel about another independence referendum, it's probably a good idea, but we're going to toil in many shapes and forms regardless of what happens.

blueeyedboy

9 years

Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]
This is the big kicker. Those who want to leave will be unlikely to see the benefits whilst the young are seeing their future being restricted by their elders.

Such a shame.

It's a global epidemic. The youth are restricted by elders, the older are misguided by the fear, and the media just recklessly helps stoke the fire.

This decision will have repercussions on a global scale.

cesar_garza01

9 years

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blueeyedboy

9 years

Originally posted by Remy:[image]

Says it all.

Says there was a lot of people between 18 and 24 that didn't bother to vote!

Macphistfly

9 years

Originally posted by cesar_garza01:It far outweighs its problems. The benefits of economical, commercial and security cooperation are there in plain sight.
How is that worse to the opposite: a politic of fear, populism, a country isolated and blaming all the problems on foreigners.
You think "internationalism" is going to solve all problems? No, but it's a start, and it's the only way in a globalized world.

I'm not for a globalized world. Violently against it.

The concept of 'Global Citizen' can kiss my ass. Handing over rights to a super-structure like the EU is a nightmare to me. Individual rights are better protected in an independent nation-state.

ahn1991

9 years

As an American, I will be voting for Hillary come election time. Trump as President would make our country an immense joke and while I actually like Bernie Sanders as a person, I hate the fact people are treating Bernie's campaign like the second coming of Jesus. Plus, Bernie supporters have time and time again shown themselves to be incredibly uninformed and terribly immature. Many Bernie supporters have said that Trump and Hillary are essentially the same, a statement that makes me want to projectile vomit. The "Bernie or bust" sentiment is probably even worse. I would say it's the equivalent of grown adults having the temper tantrum of a child, but that would be insulting to children. It shows an unwillingness to work with others to help resolve problems, which actually makes sense for Bernie's camp considering the fact Bernie has been a politician for most of his life (yet somehow he's a political outsider), but has never actually worked with his fellow politicians to get anything done.

Long story short, Bernie Sanders is probably a decent human being and I would love to have a drink with him, but putting him in charge of America would be a massive mistake.

blueeyedboy

9 years

Originally posted by ahn1991:As an American, I will be voting for Hillary come election time. Trump as President would make our country an immense joke and while I actually like Bernie Sanders as a person, I hate the fact people are treating Bernie's campaign like the second coming of Jesus. Plus, Bernie supporters have time and time again shown themselves to be incredibly uninformed and terribly immature. Many Bernie supporters have said that Trump and Hillary are essentially the same, a statement that makes me want to projectile vomit. The "Bernie or bust" sentiment is probably even worse. I would say it's the equivalent of grown adults having the temper tantrum of a child, but that would be insulting to children. It shows an unwillingness to work with others to help resolve problems, which actually makes sense for Bernie's camp considering the fact Bernie has been a politician for most of his life (yet somehow he's a political outsider), but has never actually worked with his fellow politicians to get anything done.

Long story short, Bernie Sanders is probably a decent human being and I would love to have a drink with him, but putting him in charge of America would be a massive mistake.

Be informed. There is a 3rd option. Dont settle for worse if two evils. Trump is scary, no doubt. But Hillary... oof. Lord help us all. She's got you right where she wants you.