1. Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]
    This is the big kicker. Those who want to leave will be unlikely to see the benefits whilst the young are seeing their future being restricted by their elders.

    Such a shame.
    It's a global epidemic. The youth are restricted by elders, the older are misguided by the fear, and the media just recklessly helps stoke the fire.

    This decision will have repercussions on a global scale.
  2. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:It far outweighs its problems. The benefits of economical, commercial and security cooperation are there in plain sight.
    How is that worse to the opposite: a politic of fear, populism, a country isolated and blaming all the problems on foreigners.
    You think "internationalism" is going to solve all problems? No, but it's a start, and it's the only way in a globalized world.


    I'm not for a globalized world. Violently against it.

    The concept of 'Global Citizen' can kiss my ass. Handing over rights to a super-structure like the EU is a nightmare to me. Individual rights are better protected in an independent nation-state.
  3. As an American, I will be voting for Hillary come election time. Trump as President would make our country an immense joke and while I actually like Bernie Sanders as a person, I hate the fact people are treating Bernie's campaign like the second coming of Jesus. Plus, Bernie supporters have time and time again shown themselves to be incredibly uninformed and terribly immature. Many Bernie supporters have said that Trump and Hillary are essentially the same, a statement that makes me want to projectile vomit. The "Bernie or bust" sentiment is probably even worse. I would say it's the equivalent of grown adults having the temper tantrum of a child, but that would be insulting to children. It shows an unwillingness to work with others to help resolve problems, which actually makes sense for Bernie's camp considering the fact Bernie has been a politician for most of his life (yet somehow he's a political outsider), but has never actually worked with his fellow politicians to get anything done.

    Long story short, Bernie Sanders is probably a decent human being and I would love to have a drink with him, but putting him in charge of America would be a massive mistake.
  4. Originally posted by ahn1991:As an American, I will be voting for Hillary come election time. Trump as President would make our country an immense joke and while I actually like Bernie Sanders as a person, I hate the fact people are treating Bernie's campaign like the second coming of Jesus. Plus, Bernie supporters have time and time again shown themselves to be incredibly uninformed and terribly immature. Many Bernie supporters have said that Trump and Hillary are essentially the same, a statement that makes me want to projectile vomit. The "Bernie or bust" sentiment is probably even worse. I would say it's the equivalent of grown adults having the temper tantrum of a child, but that would be insulting to children. It shows an unwillingness to work with others to help resolve problems, which actually makes sense for Bernie's camp considering the fact Bernie has been a politician for most of his life (yet somehow he's a political outsider), but has never actually worked with his fellow politicians to get anything done.

    Long story short, Bernie Sanders is probably a decent human being and I would love to have a drink with him, but putting him in charge of America would be a massive mistake.
    Be informed. There is a 3rd option. Dont settle for worse if two evils. Trump is scary, no doubt. But Hillary... oof. Lord help us all. She's got you right where she wants you.
  5. Always going to be the case when millions of people voted to stay and are angry at the result.
  6. Maybe so, but for an online petition, 2.5M is really something else. More so when you see the rate at which it's climbing. I think every critic of it is still signing with that hopeless optimism.

    Clarifying my position if it's not clear: This petition would carry zero weight if the whole country signed it.
  7. Sounds like a country waking up with a terrible hangover and saying "what have I done?"