1. Correct
  2. What my main problem with these kind of things is, is that is polarizes us even more. Because I think that when things like this occure, most of the people who are being ''helped'' by changing ''Merry Christmas'' or ''Ladies and gentlemen'' really don't give a fuck. They are smart and strong enough to just read between the lines and hear if someone does it out of good intent or not.

    But there is a minorty in every kind of ''group'' of people who are just so noisy and with the media jumping on top of them and letting them act like they are the ''Gay community'' or the ''Left'' or the ''Right'' or whatever, it just makes the big group of normal and well thinking people also look like weird.
  3. I've really found it interesting reading everyone's take on the ladies and gentlemen discussion. I feel like I've found common ground on the issue. In fact I feel some people have said what I wanted to say only much better so thank you.
  4. Originally posted by bartajax:What my main problem with these kind of things is, is that is polarizes us even more. Because I think that when things like this occure, most of the people who are being ''helped'' by changing ''Merry Christmas'' or ''Ladies and gentlemen'' really don't give a fuck. They are smart and strong enough to just read between the lines and hear if someone does it out of good intent or not.

    But there is a minorty in every kind of ''group'' of people who are just so noisy and with the media jumping on top of them and letting them act like they are the ''Gay community'' or the ''Left'' or the ''Right'' or whatever, it just makes the big group of normal and well thinking people also look like weird.
    LOL. You are right. Someone decides they will task themselves with speaking for the people without any thought of first consulting the people!
  5. Matt, as soon as you said 'Bob' I immediately thought of one past memory on this site.
  6. Would love to hear his take on these social issues
  7. Originally posted by blueeyedboy:[..]
    Fantastically well said...

    (and P.S. to me, the intent of Merry Christmas is me saying Happy Holidays. To some of us, things are just ingrained in us, nothing more, nothing less)

    And... out of curiosity... if Bob collapsed and was unable to respond, how would Joe know how he identifies? And instead of being disgusted and reprimanding Joe, shouldn't they be appreciative that Joe was being a decent human being and trying to help out another fellow human, even though he they were obviously a complete stranger?
    What an articulate and eloquently post Matt. I do love U2Start - there are some fabulous and seriously smart people on here with exceptionally good taste in music too.

    's all round (even though it's only 11.06am here and much earlier elsewhere - save em for later).
  8. So... Here's another thing that irks me (and maybe it's because I don't have the mental capacity to understand)

    If someone believes in a cause so strongly that they take to the streets to protest, why do they hide their faces? (in shame?)
  9. I see the BBC been using Streets throughout their Wimbledon coverage
  10. 12 years ago today I saw U2 for the first time