Originally posted by ade:I'd like to suggest something. Since we could be paying for this how about anyone who downloads it puts a small amount in the first charity collection box aimed their way this christmas?
Originally posted by ade:I'd like to suggest something. Since we could be paying for this how about anyone who downloads it puts a small amount in the first charity collection box aimed their way this christmas?
Originally posted by restevezes:and once again folks at this website missing the point.
Copying some information from their website:
Why aren't all of the concerts available for download? Although we own rights to these recordings, in many cases others have rights as well, including performers and song publishers. We do not make a concert available for download unless all rights have been properly cleared. Do artists get paid when their concerts are played in the Concert Vault? Do they get paid for downloads? Absolutely. We pay licensing fees for every single track played by every listener to the three major Performance Rights Organizations (PROs) - ASCAP, BMI and SESAC. These payments ultimately go to the performing artists and song publishers. A large percentage of the sales of downloads go directly to performers and song publishers.
From a commercial / legal perspective, this is no different than a U2 commercial release. No different than posting links to an official U2 release, for example. Mods of this website are not only posting links to this material and encouraging to download it, but also claiming U2start activities are legal and doubting about Wolfgang's website. Great.
From an ethical perspective, you overseeing the fact that this is an unreleased complete recording from a '87 show in pristine quality, that has been released for the masses. When was last time this happened? I can't remember it.
Where are all those requests begging U2 management to "release soundboards at a fair price"? This is exactly that. 5$ for an unreleased soundboard.
This guys did it, in a legal way (no "stolen" stuff or whatsoever), at a very fair price, and complete material in excellent quality.
We know these guys have a solid background, are a respected website, and potential to release more U2 shows.
How is this site supporting this project: releasing all their stuff and encouraging everyone to download it for free.
Great.
PS. And please stop using the term "bootleg" as a generic term for live recordings.
Originally posted by dieder:only a Satisfaction snippet? Really?
Originally posted by restevezes:and once again folks at this website missing the point.
Copying some information from their website:
Why aren't all of the concerts available for download? Although we own rights to these recordings, in many cases others have rights as well, including performers and song publishers. We do not make a concert available for download unless all rights have been properly cleared. Do artists get paid when their concerts are played in the Concert Vault? Do they get paid for downloads? Absolutely. We pay licensing fees for every single track played by every listener to the three major Performance Rights Organizations (PROs) - ASCAP, BMI and SESAC. These payments ultimately go to the performing artists and song publishers. A large percentage of the sales of downloads go directly to performers and song publishers.
From a commercial / legal perspective, this is no different than a U2 commercial release. No different than posting links to an official U2 release, for example. Mods of this website are not only posting links to this material and encouraging to download it, but also claiming U2start activities are legal and doubting about Wolfgang's website. Great.
From an ethical perspective, you overseeing the fact that this is an unreleased complete recording from a '87 show in pristine quality, that has been released for the masses. When was last time this happened? I can't remember it.
Where are all those requests begging U2 management to "release soundboards at a fair price"? This is exactly that. 5$ for an unreleased soundboard.
This guys did it, in a legal way (no "stolen" stuff or whatsoever), at a very fair price, and complete material in excellent quality.
We know these guys have a solid background, are a respected website, and potential to release more U2 shows.
How is this site supporting this project: releasing all their stuff and encouraging everyone to download it for free.
Great.
PS. And please stop using the term "bootleg" as a generic term for live recordings.