General Politics Discussion Topic [closed]

Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
So before the so-called fucking over, were you more democrat than republican? Or were you undecided and had your mind made up after Clinton got it in the back as you suggest?

Originally posted by stj0691"So.... Barack Obama is the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.... John McCain is the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, and Hilary Clinton will "keep on truckin'" to the White House."

-Jon Stewart

You gotta love the guy for his politcal humor.

Personally, I'm glad Obama will be the nominee. He can relate to the middle class. Some say he says what people want to hear, or sounds like a preacher. I don't think so. Especially after all the controversey he's faced. John McCain is a good nominee, but I think he's too old to be president. Just recently he let the press see his medical history. 1200 pages. And that's just from 2000 to 2008. I want a president, not a patient at Washington Hospital Center. Someone who will be able to make decisions. Clever how he made climate change a matter of national security. Very good move senator. But about the economy. It was recently learned that McCain's advisor was a lobbyist who "supposedly" caused the mortgage crisis. Not exactly true, because there are other factors involved. This brings me to this post's Inside Out:
The mortgage crisis is a huge problem in America, and a very hot button issue (Not as hot as the American Melting Pot, which apparently has been left on the burner again)
One thing is how banks have low rates for the first few years, then skyrocket after those years (we'll let you pay good rates, then strangle you a couple of years later)
Another thing is how Americans are spending their money. Credit cards are one reason why people can't afford to pay their mortgage, because they're paying their credit card bills and the interest rates included as well (And people paying off their credit cards with other credit cards, etc.)
Lastly, soaring gas prices are causing more people to put more money in their gas tank. America has gone from the SUVs and Hummers to the soda can. (Coke or Pepsi?)
This is certainly getting people to buy more fuel efficient cars, and more people are caring for the enviroment. But how much will gas prices be? Some say gas prices will be as high as $6 a gallon by Labor Day (and $15 by Christmas, which means little Johnny won't be getting that yacht you promised you would get him for his 3rd birthday).

At least Obama has something of an economic plan. Good run Hilary, good run. Not at good as Obama, but still worth some mention.

Here's your moment of fun:
"Mitt Romney suspends presidential campaign .... Romney then added,. "now if you'll pardon me, I must return to my former career as a ..."

Originally posted by stj0691[..]

I love political satire.... anyway, back to what I was going to say. I know England and Japan have had $7 gas prices, it's that I enjoy seeing my friends squirm as they fill their tank. Earlier this year I convinced my parents to get a hybrid, and now they're thanking me.

Obama has a smoking addiction. Oh well. It's a shame he does. Funny how he's in perfect health (probably because he's only 45 and smoking hasnt taken a toll on him, but it will). As for McCain, let's take a bet, what will he get next? I'm kidding here, but c'mon, you got to hand it to him. 73 years old and running for president. A real go-getter. Perhaps that's what this country needs. Perhaps the war in Iraq has been handled wrong. In McCain's words, "We need a president and leaders with military experience." Hmm, several people have now come to mind, primarily George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, the list goes on.

Americans love anything BIG. We all know it's true. Heck, I'll even go with a U2 reference. PopMart was satire of commercialism. 40 foot lemon, giant screen, huge arch to represent McDonalds. Basically a parody of what America was, and still is. Combine the media satire of Zoo TV and commercialism satire of PopMart you essentially have what America was in the 90s, and in a sense, still is. If only there was a tour this year, and Bono prank called the White House again. "Hello? May I speak to George Jr.?" I'd get a kick out of that, as would most of the country (and this site).

Of course, the joke is on us. If Americans opened their eyes and looked at where there money went, our economy would not be so shitty right now. Gas prices go up, so we go to chain stores like Wal Mart. We buy cheap products made in other countries. The money goes to business CEOs and whoever. They then go on out of the country vacations and spend thousands, and the money goes to those countries. And the euro goes up compared to the US dollar, so it costs those CEOs more. So they think, "maybe I'll give myself a raise". That affects the little guy, who they have no care for whatsoever. If they actually did care, prices wouldnt be so ridiculous. If I ever have a CEO or high management position, I would rather live simply than crazily. I would spend my money on home grown products, and keep the economy going. But greedy CEOs don't have this view. They only care about how much they can get. One example are oil execs. The US Senate questioned six reps and execs of big oil companies of America. The way they spoke got me sick. They basically said they only care for themselves, and hoped they could have concern for others. Hope to have concern? Does this mean that they are cold hearted? If anything there execs could learn a thing or two from good ol' Bono, who set up the ONE campaign. I know we're sick of hearing about it, but it does support a good cause. These execs could help other parts of the US that need help, like New Orleans and surrounding areas from the Katrina disaster. But then again, they can say, what about help from the government? Well, here's what I have to say. You execs out there make more money than what some people could see in 3 or 4 lifetimes. Stop being greedy. That's why people don't like you. That's why you execs are being hated. Do YOU really need a million dollar raise? Do YOU really need another house somewhere? I really wonder what YOU think of yourself. Take a good look in the mirror and see what monsters you execs have become.

EDIT: sorry about that, I really needed to get that off my chest.

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01[..]


About Mccains age though, win Barack was in grade school Maccain was in the most hatted POW camp in all of North Vietnam, and had survived one of the worst accidents in the history of the U.S. Navy. No matter what you think of him, the man is a war hero. Obama has never served a day in uniform. I am from the line of thought that the president should have been in the service at least briefly. That way he knows whats at stake when he deplys the troops.

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01[..]

Undecided with a heavy libearl streak.

Originally posted by haytrain[..]

2.) The current president should have known what was at stake (since he had "military experence").

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01[..]

He was in the ANG, and didn't even show up half the time. I dont think that counts.

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01What has Obama acomplished that makes him even remotely qualified for the job?