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  1. Alright, this is a discussion on the real reasons of the album delay. Thanks to member bayou12780 of Interference I got some funny pictures to start with Then it's time to discuss what's behind it, if there's something more behind it than U2 says.

    Is it commercial reasons? Bono's time outside U2 (You Too of this week)? Or something else?

  2. I think we had that covered on the former News on the new album topic. Someone with too much time on their hands can copy and paste that.
  3. Fun post!

  4. the last ones worth an lol

  5. Definitely

    I do recordings, too. There are always things you COULD redo, improve, change, etc. You can improve the recordings of your songs until you finally find you've killed and butchered them in the process. Then you can either continue improving until eternity or throw everything away and restart.

    Decades ago U2 wrote a bunch of songs and rehearsed them. Then they were booked into studio and had to be finished by some day a few weeks later.

    I guess now that they can decide for themselves where and how long they write, rehearse, arrange, record, rearrange, rerecord, mix, remix, master, remaster and whatever they just don't find the moment to say "stop now, we're finished". Which is bad because too many reworkings don't improve anything any more. Actually this state only weakens the album which will inevitably lose all of its spontanity and a lot of its fresh energy and only happens to be a lifeless overproduced industry product with a few good songs.

    After the furious "Achtung Baby" U2 did, whenever they entered the studio, trade off a 50% loss of their live energy for 50% sound production improvement. This might have been a wise choice during Zooropa and Pop - heck, probably not, I don't know, I respect the experimental touch but I don't like the sound on these albums at all. ATYCLB and HTDAAB were steps in the right direction soundwise, but not very fresh, spontaneous, energetic or even courageous - just routine work. Personally speaking, I'd LOVE to hear U2 shouting out nine good songs in thirty- five minutes with all amps cranked to eleven and a supporting Eno keyboard layer underneath. I don't need anything else. I'd LOVE to hear the best ATYCLB and HTDAAB songs delivered with the raw energy of the War album - or at least with the five- piece- band- like feeling of TUF and TJT. That's why I liked "Window in the Skies" so much - Rick Rubin is an expert in "keep-it-raw-and-simple" production. But I know that what I wish for is not gonna happen.

    I do think that U2s songs and lyrics are as strong as ever. They just tend to overproduce. I'm confident that we'll get to hear some great new songs, but I'm losing hope that it's gonna be a fresh sounding album production- wise. Just like the last two, I expect it to be no better than solid (okay, I COULD be wrong on that one). Sorry my friends.

    Alex
  6. Originally posted by Alex:[..]
    Definitely

    I do recordings, too. There are always things you COULD redo, improve, change, etc. You can improve the recordings of your songs until you finally find you've killed and butchered them in the process. Then you can either continue improving until eternity or throw everything away and restart.

    Decades ago U2 wrote a bunch of songs and rehearsed them. Then they were booked into studio and had to be finished by some day a few weeks later.

    I guess now that they can decide for themselves where and how long they write, rehearse, arrange, record, rearrange, rerecord, mix, remix, master, remaster and whatever they just don't find the moment to say "stop now, we're finished". Which is bad because too many reworkings don't improve anything any more. Actually this state only weakens the album which will inevitably lose all of its spontanity and a lot of its fresh energy and only happens to be a lifeless overproduced industry product with a few good songs.

    After the furious "Achtung Baby" U2 did, whenever they entered the studio, trade off a 50% loss of their live energy for 50% sound production improvement. This might have been a wise choice during Zooropa and Pop - heck, probably not, I don't know, I respect the experimental touch but I don't like the sound on these albums at all. ATYCLB and HTDAAB were steps in the right direction soundwise, but not very fresh, spontaneous, energetic or even courageous - just routine work. Personally speaking, I'd LOVE to hear U2 shouting out nine good songs in thirty- five minutes with all amps cranked to eleven and a supporting Eno keyboard layer underneath. I don't need anything else. I'd LOVE to hear the best ATYCLB and HTDAAB songs delivered with the raw energy of the War album - or at least with the five- piece- band- like feeling of TUF and TJT. That's why I liked "Window in the Skies" so much - Rick Rubin is an expert in "keep-it-raw-and-simple" production. But I know that what I wish for is not gonna happen.

    I do think that U2s songs and lyrics are as strong as ever. They just tend to overproduce. I'm confident that we'll get to hear some great new songs, but I'm losing hope that it's gonna be a fresh sounding album production- wise. Just like the last two, I expect it to be no better than solid (okay, I COULD be wrong on that one). Sorry my friends.

    Alex


    I couldn't agree with you more.The more production comes at a cost,you tend to loose some of the actual performance of it all.
  7. "career plans" and "the delays" pictures are hilarious. great post, thanks for sharing.
  8. they actually ditched the fez tapes
  11. Originally posted by Alex:[..]
    Definitely

    I do recordings, too. There are always things you COULD redo, improve, change, etc. You can improve the recordings of your songs until you finally find you've killed and butchered them in the process. Then you can either continue improving until eternity or throw everything away and restart.

    Decades ago U2 wrote a bunch of songs and rehearsed them. Then they were booked into studio and had to be finished by some day a few weeks later.

    I guess now that they can decide for themselves where and how long they write, rehearse, arrange, record, rearrange, rerecord, mix, remix, master, remaster and whatever they just don't find the moment to say "stop now, we're finished". Which is bad because too many reworkings don't improve anything any more. Actually this state only weakens the album which will inevitably lose all of its spontanity and a lot of its fresh energy and only happens to be a lifeless overproduced industry product with a few good songs.

    After the furious "Achtung Baby" U2 did, whenever they entered the studio, trade off a 50% loss of their live energy for 50% sound production improvement. This might have been a wise choice during Zooropa and Pop - heck, probably not, I don't know, I respect the experimental touch but I don't like the sound on these albums at all. ATYCLB and HTDAAB were steps in the right direction soundwise, but not very fresh, spontaneous, energetic or even courageous - just routine work. Personally speaking, I'd LOVE to hear U2 shouting out nine good songs in thirty- five minutes with all amps cranked to eleven and a supporting Eno keyboard layer underneath. I don't need anything else. I'd LOVE to hear the best ATYCLB and HTDAAB songs delivered with the raw energy of the War album - or at least with the five- piece- band- like feeling of TUF and TJT. That's why I liked "Window in the Skies" so much - Rick Rubin is an expert in "keep-it-raw-and-simple" production. But I know that what I wish for is not gonna happen.

    I do think that U2s songs and lyrics are as strong as ever. They just tend to overproduce. I'm confident that we'll get to hear some great new songs, but I'm losing hope that it's gonna be a fresh sounding album production- wise. Just like the last two, I expect it to be no better than solid (okay, I COULD be wrong on that one). Sorry my friends.

    Alex


    Nice post. Don't agree with all of it - especially on Zooropa and Pop - but good post.
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