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  1. Originally posted by yuri31:[..]

    don't worry, I'm pretty sure you belong to the people who care 'bout my opinion
    that 'excuse me' was for vanquish as he said that a government killing 3000 citizens is something that would never happen in the US, but he said these things happen if Africa, Southeast Asia and Eastern Europe. And if we look at Europe just as Western and Eastern, I live in the Eastern part. And hell, no, we're not animals, no government would kill 3000 citizens just to start some war etc. Dunno if he has noticed but Stalin died a couple of years ago

    [..]
    I reply only when I see some refference to me or I think I have some good opinion to the topic, 'casue if I wrote all my opinions, those posts would really be meaningless
    if I somewhere feel an insult to my person, even if it's not directly intended, I don't stay quiet

    and if you find me annoying you can only deal with it, as I think you've noticed that I'm stubborn and don't change. never. ever. dot.

    [..]
    I know I'll sound anti-American again, but if the Americans' dream is really to have a gun, I find something wrong with those people


    Did everyone forget the Balkan War? Is should also add South & Central America to that list. And I didn't suggest you are animals, its just that some of the governments in these countries get away with atrocities, like 9/11 which you claim ignorantly that the Americans perpetrated, so they could spend billions and lose thousands more lives fighting halfway across the world, in a rocky desert.

    While I agree that America has its fair share of problems, its not like Slovakia has none. Ever heard of tall poppy syndrome? You don't live in the country, so don't tell harass them on what to do? Are they pointing out Slovakia's shortfalls? (and attempting to rewrite its history as well)

    But I do agree that America should be gun-free (although I would like a gun myself) I think too many people who carry guns shouldn't be, as all you need is someone with anger management issues, to pull out a gun and shoot a guy over some petty argument.
    And the fact that if your house/store gets robbed is made much worse by the fact that the burglars can get away with weapons rather than your stuff is a problem, as then they can be more agressive and get away with more crimes etc.

    The problem with control is that its ineffective, as various journalists have shown how easy it is to obtain a gun in seedier areas, the large amounts of guns among the public in the US are a problem in itself, regardless of who owns them or how their regulated.

    And wtshnn you're not old, if you're younger than me.

    And the death penalty is an antiquated idea- slots in right next to being burning witches. What does it achieve - besides more killing? does it bring back the victim? what about all the innocent people on death row?

    If you want to defend yourself, take up martial arts, its way too easy to simply pull a trigger and end someones life epecially if your drunk/enraged/mistaken at the time..

    This whole topic reminds me of The Wanderer, and the 'Bible and a Gun' America that Bono found so hard to reconcile with. And which God put up the death penalty, does he require blood sacrifices at dawn as well?






  2. Originally posted by markp91:[..]

    Then that's the big difference between us. Those people are/were wrong, definitely should be punished, but death? No. Those people can change, criminals are not always criminals for life. I believe in second chances and 're-raising' people. If they keep doing those crimes, then they should/could get prison for life. But the death penalty? Not a chance. IMHO the death penalty is a rule for dictators and I think it's a shame that an evolved, democratic country as the US has that rule.


    Fact 1: Over half of all criminals who commit those crimes will do it again.
    Fact 2: Its a lot cheaper too kill them than too keep them in prison.


  3. Good man.
  4. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    Did everyone forget the Balkan War? Is should also add South & Central America to that list. And I didn't suggest you are animals, its just that some of the governments in these countries get away with atrocities, like 9/11 which you claim ignorantly that the Americans perpetrated, so they could spend billions and lose thousands more lives fighting halfway across the world, in a rocky desert.

    While I agree that America has its fair share of problems, its not like Slovakia has none. Ever heard of tall poppy syndrome? You don't live in the country, so don't tell harass them on what to do? Are they pointing out Slovakia's shortfalls? (and attempting to rewrite its history as well)

    But I do agree that America should be gun-free (although I would like a gun myself) I think too many people who carry guns shouldn't be, as all you need is someone with anger management issues, to pull out a gun and shoot a guy over some petty argument.
    And the fact that if your house/store gets robbed is made much worse by the fact that the burglars can get away with weapons rather than your stuff is a problem, as then they can be more agressive and get away with more crimes etc.

    The problem with control is that its ineffective, as various journalists have shown how easy it is to obtain a gun in seedier areas, the large amounts of guns among the public in the US are a problem in itself, regardless of who owns them or how their regulated.

    And wtshnn you're not old, if you're younger than me.

    And the death penalty is an antiquated idea- slots in right next to being burning witches. What does it achieve - besides more killing? does it bring back the victim? what about all the innocent people on death row?

    If you want to defend yourself, take up martial arts, its way too easy to simply pull a trigger and end someones life epecially if your drunk/enraged/mistaken at the time..

    This whole topic reminds me of The Wanderer, and the 'Bible and a Gun' America that Bono found so hard to reconcile with. And which God put up the death penalty, does he require blood sacrifices at dawn as well?









    1. I'm not that old, but I'm very cyniacl, and jaded for my age.
    2. Not all martial arts are going too be effective, if a big guy with a knife on PCP jumps you.
    3. In my opinion, killing the sons a bitches is the only way to cure pedophiles.


  5. It's a crime, yes, but not punishable by death.

    A cure to me, is getting them out of it. So many cases have gone by where the accused pedophile is absolutely 100% innocent (some accused twice over a decade!), but they're sentenced to life in prison, then they find out the case was false, the person who accused them is trying to get money out of them, or someone different did it. What a load of absolute bullshit.




    It might be cheaper, but maybe the country needs to execute them when they say, not leave them on death row for 15 years.
  6. Originally posted by vanquish:

    This whole topic reminds me of The Wanderer, and the 'Bible and a Gun' America that Bono found so hard to reconcile with. And which God put up the death penalty, does he require blood sacrifices at dawn as well?


    The God that Bono follows....and he used to require the sacrifices until He died for us....


  7. Forgive me, I admit I know little about Islam, but I thought Islam followed the Old Testament?
  8. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Fact 1: Over half of all criminals who commit those crimes will do it again.
    Fact 2: Its a lot cheaper too kill them than too keep them in prison.


    Source?
  9. Looks like we might have to open up the Religion Topic again...what do you say, Casper?
  11. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]
    Did everyone forget the Balkan War? Is should also add South & Central America to that list. And I didn't suggest you are animals, its just that some of the governments in these countries get away with atrocities, like 9/11 which you claim ignorantly that the Americans perpetrated, so they could spend billions and lose thousands more lives fighting halfway across the world, in a rocky desert.



    I didn't say anything about the US perpetrating 9/11 attacks
    and ok, gotta agree on the Balkan War

    Originally posted by vanquish:
    While I agree that America has its fair share of problems, its not like Slovakia has none. Ever heard of tall poppy syndrome? You don't live in the country, so don't tell harass them on what to do? Are they pointing out Slovakia's shortfalls? (and attempting to rewrite its history as well)

    saying what I think isn't saying what America should do or trying to rewrite its history, or am I wrong? and of course people do point out problems of the US, it's the biggest superpower in the world.

  12. Then you are as crazy as he. How can you have such opinions? Killing criminals instead of keeping them jailed?
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