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  1. Originally posted by RDB92:[..]

    Rejoice is a great one too, I love that riff. And I also like I Fall Down, except for the chorus:
    I fall down
    I'm falling down
    I fall down
    When you fall down
    When I'm falling down
    Is when you're falling down
    When you fall down
    I fall down



    I see what you mean. Never quite thought of it that way. So I guess he's falling down.
  2. Originally posted by aussiemofo:[..]

    Surely by "nothing exceptional" you mean not extremely popular? Because Boy is one of the best albums they've ever made. I take your point that they didn't set the world alight in the early 80's. It took War and later TUF to gain some momentum.


    I couldn't agree more. I think maybe the reason October gets the response that it does is that it's the second album. Boy is just so great that October is seen as a slump, even though it's perfectly good album. It's just not as good as Boy or War. It's just stuck in the middle.
  3. Originally posted by vanquish:Pride is too overused and overblown, it should be dropped. Replace it with Ultraviolet or something. I think sentimentality has got the better of the band and they keep it as an permanent ode to MLK, (I think they should use MLK instead, if they have to have such a song at every show)

    I think MLK is a better ode to the man himself than Pride, but on the same note Pride's growing on me in recent times - audiences respond to the band when they kick into it, which is probably why they keep it. There's a quote of Bono's from '84/85 which I think sums it up, and he talks about it being their best song to date - sure, times have changed but if they felt about the song in that way when they wrote it and no doubt still feel that way about it, you can understand why they don't want to drop it. In my view, it's a song that has a message that still holds true today, and it's a great anthem - overplayed, maybe, but I still think it's a fantastic song. I'd love to see Ultra Violet return, mind.
    Originally posted by vanquish:And what's wrong with Grace, it's a fine quiet song with nice ambience and good lyrics, maybe it doesn't have any guitar solos but it is definitely not their worst song.

    I just think it is, the main thing that gets me is Bono's vocals on it - maybe his voice was not at a peak when recording, but there are times when it really grates (another example would be the acoustic version of In God's Country from Oakland, he's pretty offkey for quite a lot of that). On a musical level, I just find it a very boring song that doesn't engage on a musical level. Like I said before, there's elements to it that I like with the message it carries, but the meanings behind a song alone don't serve to draw me to it - it just, well, it's dull lol.
    Originally posted by sdking91:I couldn't agree more. I think maybe the reason October gets the response that it does is that it's the second album. Boy is just so great that October is seen as a slump, even though it's perfectly good album. It's just not as good as Boy or War. It's just stuck in the middle.

    I personally prefer October to War hands down - War has a good few songs that I love (Like A Song and Drowning Man being prime examples) but on the same note, there's more I dislike about War as an album than I do October which I think is much better as an album (not to mention there's more songs from there that I like lol...).
  5. Originally posted by aussiemofo:[..]

    Surely by "nothing exceptional" you mean not extremely popular? Because Boy is one of the best albums they've ever made. I take your point that they didn't set the world alight in the early 80's. It took War and later TUF to gain some momentum.


    Nothing standout, unlike say a first album like Hot Fuss. And yes Bono's voice on Grace is a bit strained.

  6. It's not like U2 have done badly for themselves though with the slow-burner approach

    Time will tell if The Killers can be as successful and have a career to match that of U2 though.


  7. Uh oh... now you started it again. The killers vs. U2 debate. I'm officially out of this discussion. Here we go....
  8. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    It's not like U2 have done badly for themselves though with the slow-burner approach

    Time will tell if The Killers can be as successful and have a career to match that of U2 though.


    True, I never suggested that The Killers will be as successfull as U2, I just pointed out that U2 hit their stride later in their career, and used The Killers as a contrast.



  9. Agree with you there.

    I never liked 40, though I'm not entirely sure why. I always skip it on bootlegs, and I haven't listened to the album version in quite a while.

    Most of Zooropa I don't like either, but wish I did.
  10. Boy, remembering it is from 1980, is still constantly rated one of the best debut albums of any band by so many reputable media publications - Rolling Stone and Q Magazine being just two, and by fans and non-fans. There aren't a lot of bands whose debut record can hold up to today, and songs still being played live and still immensely popular with new and old fans alike. The thing that makes it great is the vast amount of imagery and themes.

    October contains some of the best U2 songs of the last 30 years. Gloria, I Threw A Brick, October, Tomorrow, Is That All, I Fall Down, With A Shout - seven exceptional songs from a second album. War just can't hold that kind of achievement - it has maybe four amazing songs, but the album isn't that great overall.

    The first two albums seem to be primarily bass / guitar orientated, which is why it sounds so fresh, and some of the best lyrics of any U2 album.
  12. I found it funny reading through the sites now, I see some opinions of songs I shared some time back, but now totally revise, like the songs Grace, One Tree Hill, Bullet and New Year's Day.


    Songs that I really don't get into although they actually seem/are/should be LOVE are

    Exit
    Acrobat
    Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
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