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anstratdubh1979

Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

That's pretty cool that your dad knows guitars haha. My dad just refers to my explorer as the X shaped guitar, and my strat as the red one. (sunburst, lol).

As for student fees and financial restraints, that's where I'm very lucky. My mom works at Carleton University here in Ottawa, Ontario. So I happen to get free tuition if I choose to attend there (which I will be next year). So basically, all the money from my part time job goes to whatever the hell I want. Haha.

You should 'hint' to your dad that a gift (from him or anyone) of a Rickenbacker would be very much welcome.

WojBhoy

16 years

Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:That's pretty cool that your dad knows guitars haha. My dad just refers to my explorer as the X shaped guitar, and my strat as the red one. (sunburst, lol).

As for student fees and financial restraints, that's where I'm very lucky. My mom works at Carleton University here in Ottawa, Ontario. So I happen to get free tuition if I choose to attend there (which I will be next year). So basically, all the money from my part time job goes to whatever the hell I want. Haha.

Heh, well, dad isn't THAT hot on guitars but yeah, he does know the odd bit here and there, but nonetheless I was kinda thrown back when he mentioned Ricks to me lol! And re. your arrangement regarding Uni., you're a lucky bastard so make the most of it! I had to give up my 2 jobs before going to Uni. because it just wasn't feasible at the time to keep up with them whilst living at Uni., so I'm doing as best I can on the loan before next year when I should hopefully find another job.

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:You should 'hint' to your dad that a gift (from him or anyone) of a Rickenbacker would be very much welcome.

Ha, some hint lol. The parents contributed £200 towards the Explorer, whilst other relatives put £100 combined, so I'm paying the final £32 inc. P&P so something tells me I'm seriously unlikely to get a Rick. in such a manner lol...but yeah, you're right, it would be MORE than welcome

I was interested to see one of the various U2 tribute bands' (think it was Elevation? Can't remember though) Edges playing Ultra-Violet on a black Jetglo...even though the actual part didn't sound right, he got a pretty sweet tone out of it

AAV711

16 years

HIDDEN AMPS:
• (1) `60’s Vox AC30TB converted/customized to a head – reference tone for FOH (w/Vox 2x12 cabinet [located behind rack])
• (1) `50’s Fender Deluxe Tweed (mic’d at rear)
• (1) `60’s Vox AC30 (mic’d at rear)

FENDER - BLUES JUNIOR - (Customized) - Xxxx - Used for shimmer effects during Vertigo tour.
FENDER - Deluxe - 1959 (Behind rig during 2005/2006 Vertigo tour._

HIWATT:
HIWATT - [model / information forthcoming]
HIWATT combo amp - [model / information forthcoming] - Mentioned as being used for "Elevation" during the "All That You Can't Leave Behind" recording sessions.

Neat! Thanks. Yeah what's the deal with the amps behind the main rig? Backups? They need to be isolated

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You can see some of them here

He used the HiWatt on ATYCLB for Elevation, right? You can also see one in a picture of HQ during Atomic Bomb recording sessions in U2 By U2. What's your opinion on HiWatt amps, Jeff? I saw Oasis a couple of weeks ago, Noel Gallagher is using HiWatts exclusively for this tour. I thought he got an awful sound out of them, I wish he'd switch back to his Fenders and Voxes of yore. Yet we see Edge has gotten a killer sound out of HiWatt amplification.

I assume the Vox-in-a-box refers to the amp kept in a box so the soundboard can get a sound w/o the ambience of the room/arena, right? Dallas makes some mention of it in one of these videos from the Elevation Tour (anyone else seen these?)

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anstratdubh1979

16 years

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The one's in the back are for various reasons. The "VOX-In-A-Box" is for isolation and reference tone for FOH mix (for Joe O'Herlihy).

The others are mic'd from behind the combo amp. Different tone then micing in front of the amp and used to blend in with other amp signals. As they are mic'd from behind, no need to have them out front.

Hi-Watt amps are fine. Very rock. Very overdrive. Hence, Oasis use them. Hence, Pete Townshend used them a lot with The Who. Hence, The Edge used them on things like Elevation. (on the song, not during the Elevation tour)

anstratdubh1979

16 years

Moe on Edge's Hi-Watt amp use from the January 2001 Guitar Player magazine article

GP : "Elevation" has some amazing distortion tones.

Edge : I used a Gibson SG through an old fuzz pedal of Daniel's into the Bassman. He said, "What do you think of this?" Within ten minutes, I had the riff that became the stepping off point for "Elevation". Inspiration can come from anywhere, and a fresh sound can be just as inspiring as a great hook. To me, sounds *are* hooks. That tone presented a whole world of ideas to me, and we got a song
out of it.

GP : What is that huge distortion sound that barges in during the main riff?

Edge : That's the Hiwatt.

So how did he do that tone live during the Elevation tour? Hi-Watt amp simulation in the Line 6 POD is my first guess.

Full Guitar Player feature from Jan 2001 article can be found at:
http://www.u2-stage-and-studio.com/edge/id33.html

Alex

16 years

Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:It does help. I've been looking at alternatives to the expensive American Standard. The thing is though, i've found that, yes you can get a quality guitar for a reasonable price. But in the end, the more expensive guitar, even if it isn't TOO different, is usually worth the extra money. Happened with my Gibson explorer, as opposed to getting an epiphone. The Epiphones are great, but in the end I'm glad I spent ALL of my savings and got a Gibson. It's become my favourite guitar. I will probably end up getting an American Standard. The only thing that's making me consider another strat is the large 70's headstock on the 70's MIm strat. Too bad the american 70's doesn't come in black with a maple fretboard.

If I were you I'd think about visiting a big store where I could play and compare a few of them.

For example, I tried the Lite Ash Strat twice. I really loved the sound but the neck shape between "C" and slight "V" was not my cup of tea. On the other hand, the Highway 1 was dreamlike for me - with the exception of the vintage vibrato - I prefer floating trems. In the end I chose a lot of Highway parts for my blue project Strat.

That's what you could do, too. Get yourself a black Strat body, get the neck you prefer, get some replacement pickups and get a few other itmes - and then assemble your personal dream Strat.

But out of experience I can tell you: If you're set on an American Standard then everything else will most likely be just a substitute, and you'll never be completely happy with it.

Alex

WojBhoy

16 years

Hey guys - on the subject of building one's own guitars, a friend of my parents told me about www.warmoth.com; anyone else heard of it?

Anyway, I was just plinking along on my acoustic earlier on and I hit on this little arrangement which I was kinda pleased with. Ok, as ever, the microphone on my mp3 player is atrocious so there's an irritating hiss to contend with and it was a bit ad lib as far as my musicianship goes but hey ho lol. I played it on my acoustic and the delay was added afterwards for a bit of extra flavour (mainly because when I tried it out originally on my Les Paul, the end product wasn't anywhere near as good, but the delay seemed to fill it out so I added afterwards);

October/One medley

PS - if the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll stick it on mediafire again, I know Alex saying that my last effort to use eSnips went up the spout but I've tried the link myself and it seems to be working for the moment

anstratdubh1979

16 years

On the subject of Black Strats and/or builiding a Black Strat?

Try a Fender Highway One Stratocaster. Price? Averaging $749.99 - And that ain't bad at all!

http://www.zzounds.com/item--FEN111162

They come in come in Edge-Used / Edge-Approved black. It'd be great as is but if you want all black early era...

...You can swap out the white pickguard, pickup covers and knobs for Edge-Used / Edge-Approved black... and et voila - all black `70's style Stratocaster.

All I've heard from the Highway One's is that the stock pickups are pretty great. But as usual, one could swap them out for Fralin's, Kinman's or other after-market upgrades later.

My .02

RattleandHum1988

16 years

Nope. I've decided on an American Standard

Thanks though strat.

LikeASong

16 years

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By LikeASong

Any clues about that Bono's black guitar?? I don't have ANY idea... Brand, model, kind of guitar... And what the hell is up with that double dots on fret SEVEN??

I thought ony fret twelve has to get the double dots in order to point the harmonics location, etc...

Thanks in advance

WojBhoy

16 years

Originally posted by LikeASong:[image]
By LikeASong

Any clues about that Bono's black guitar?? I don't have ANY idea... Brand, model, kind of guitar... And what the hell is up with that double dots on fret SEVEN?? I thought ony fret twelve has to get the double dots in order to point the harmonics location, etc...

Thanks in advance

I've never been hot on what the inlays denote etc. but my acoustic has 2 dots on the 7th fret, and besides, regarding harmonics' locations, the 7th fret is also used for natural harmonics, so I don't see what the kaboodle is there? As for what model etc., haven't the foggiest mate lol...

Alex

16 years

Originally posted by WojBhoy:Hey guys - on the subject of building one's own guitars, a friend of my parents told me about www.warmoth.com; anyone else heard of it?

Of course. Warmoth have a reputation as one of the world's top guitar partmakers. But they are also quite expensive. I have not yet used Warmoth parts nor tried a Warmoth Strat - but I'd like to.

October/One medley

PS - if the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll stick it on mediafire again

Please do that. Bad Link again.

Alex

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