1. I start to understand the lyrics and I'm starting to like the song too. I even start to sing a long with it.
  2. Originally posted by MWSAH:I start to understand the lyrics and I'm starting to like the song too. I even start to sing a long with it.


    ditto...the lyrics aren't a big problem for me now, I'm making up meanings for it...
  3. Originally posted by Andrew_C:Its funny how most people dont rate the lyrics, is this casue they have no meaning (that we can make out atm) or just casue its ryming stuff? "laughter is eternity, if joy is real" thats probably one of my favourite lines from the song, and its true, if u r truely joyful (happy) u will always be laughing.

    I think the main thing for me, like I said a while back, is just that there's no context to go with - I just don't know where the song sits, what it's actually getting at, but I have a feeling that the sooner I get hold of the album, the more likely it is that I'll get the jist of the song itself.


  4. That's the thing - it shouldn't take so much work; and the only reason you're putting the work in is because it's u2 and you're a big fan. Most other music lovers / the general public won't give it half as much work, if even that; and that's what's disappointing for me.

    I mean, it's the first u2 single in years, and even us diehards are having mixed feelings about it?

    I also don't like the strategy. In today's global village, I think they should have just released the single on the same day to the whole planet via Radio / iTunes / Amazon / other digital media / CD copy some 3 - 4 weeks before the album and then just release the album itself to gain maximum impact & exposure.

    Also, I've been reading some of the posts about giving it time, and listening to the layers hidden within the song etc;

    To me these layers are just icing or decorations on the cake of the song - maybe they're nice to nibble etc; but they won't sustain you like the rest of the cake / song will (mmm...cake!!).

    Cheers,
    Sean.
  5. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    I think the main thing for me, like I said a while back, is just that there's no context to go with - I just don't know where the song sits, what it's actually getting at, but I have a feeling that the sooner I get hold of the album, the more likely it is that I'll get the jist of the song itself.


    What I got out of it: http://www.u2start.com/topic/3286/226056/
  6. Originally posted by nowiamthemaster:[..]

    That's the thing - it shouldn't take so much work; and the only reason you're putting the work in is because it's u2 and you're a big fan. Most other music lovers / the general public won't give it half as much work, if even that; and that's what's disappointing for me.

    I mean, it's the first u2 single in years, and even us diehards are having mixed feelings about it?

    I also don't like the strategy. In today's global village, I think they should have just released the single on the same day to the whole planet via Radio / iTunes / Amazon / other digital media / CD copy some 3 - 4 weeks before the album and then just release the album itself to gain maximum impact & exposure.

    Also, I've been reading some of the posts about giving it time, and listening to the layers hidden within the song etc;

    To me these layers are just icing or decorations on the cake of the song - maybe they're nice to nibble etc; but they won't sustain you like the rest of the cake / song will (mmm...cake!!).

    Cheers,
    Sean.


    Weren't most "die-hard" fans split over The Fly when that came out?
  7. Wow. Just downloaded it from Itunes and the 256kb/s sounds much better!


  8. Yeah, they were; but that's comparing apples to oranges imo (or appels to oranjes as the Smashing Pumpkins would say).

    The Fly was different to peoples' ears back in '91 because they didn't know what to expect from U2 at that stage - from R&H to AB was a huge sonic shift after all; but, as U2 fans, we've since all digested the hearty meals of AB, Zooropa, Passengers, Pop and the return-to-basics of the last two albums; so, at this point in time, we're actually looking forward to hearing something new & inventive from U2.

    In fact we're all expecting it given all the hype we've been hearing a la: "reinventing rock n' roll" & "sonic evolution" etc - none of which I remember hearing at the time with regard to AB. That was more of a: here we are / judge-the-music kind-of approach.

    Regardless, as a song, the Fly still had a definable structure with a guitar solo & cool processed vocals, whereas the vocals in GOYB lack power & meaning, at least IMO, plus we've no solo, just a cool drum-based bridge.

    This topic might make a good poll perhaps: which of the Fly or GOYB represents the greater sonic shift while still being a good / great song?? Fly wins hands-down for me every time.

    As I said before, one great riff does not a great song make; so bring on the album and let us all judge GOYB in its proper context!!



  9. This sucks big time - you can get in Holland; but I can't get an Irish song from an Irish band in Ireland?
  10. I understand. If you want more 'info', PM me.


  11. Yeah Im glad we have it in holland now but its still ridiculous they couldn't 'select every country' while 'uploading' to iTunes.
  12. Originally posted by nowiamthemaster:[..]

    Yeah, they were; but that's comparing apples to oranges imo (or appels to oranjes as the Smashing Pumpkins would say).

    The Fly was different to peoples' ears back in '91 because they didn't know what to expect from U2 at that stage - from R&H to AB was a huge sonic shift after all; but, as U2 fans, we've since all digested the hearty meals of AB, Zooropa, Passengers, Pop and the return-to-basics of the last two albums; so, at this point in time, we're actually looking forward to hearing something new & inventive from U2.

    In fact we're all expecting it given all the hype we've been hearing a la: "reinventing rock n' roll" & "sonic evolution" etc - none of which I remember hearing at the time with regard to AB. That was more of a: here we are / judge-the-music kind-of approach.

    Regardless, as a song, the Fly still had a definable structure with a guitar solo & cool processed vocals, whereas the vocals in GOYB lack power & meaning, at least IMO, plus we've no solo, just a cool drum-based bridge.

    This topic might make a good poll perhaps: which of the Fly or GOYB represents the greater sonic shift while still being a good / great song?? Fly wins hands-down for me every time.

    As I said before, one great riff does not a great song make; so bring on the album and let us all judge GOYB in its proper context!!




    The Fly wins hands down for sure, but the fact that Boots has so many of us scratching our heads might say something....it is an odd song for the reasons you mentioned, I don't think the vocals and lyrics are that bad though....and I completely agree about needing to hear Boots in its full context