1. Originally posted by aussiemofo:Of course it's ok to criticise them. Most of us think they're their greatest band on Earth and only want them to maintain that position until they retire. If we think something they've done doesn't meet our lofty expectations, it's only understandable that we voice those concerns. It doesn't change the fact that we love them to pieces.

    What is not cool in my book however is being overly critical by constantly focussing on their flaws and what you dislike about them or their material without acknowledging what they've achieved in the industry and what you like most about them.


    exactly.

    I might not criticise them very often, there just hasn't been much so far that made me question them, what they do or their music. I'm not saying they are perfect and I don't defend them by all means. if there was something I would disagree with, I'd say so, but so far I was as good as always fine with that they did.
  2. you are not governed by the band. Say what you wish
  3. It's not my self- definition as a U2 fan that determines what I'm allowed to think and say about them.

    It's the other way around:

    It's the fact that I can constantly find much more good than bad things to think and say about them that leads to the conclusion of me being a U2 fan - which includes accepting that they aren't perfect. Neither musically nor personally.

    So be who you are. Feel free to say what you want to and don't care if others consider you a "real" or "true" fan. Emancipate from other people's judgements.

    In the end I don't think that a widely accepted definition for such a category as "fan" even exists. The edges of fan- being are too blurred. What some define as "fan" would others define as "bone-headed". What others define as "fan" would be called "half-hearted" by others.

    I'd even go a step further, saying: Nobody owes anything to U2 except what all people owe one another, and that's basically fairness and respect. In example it means to buy and not steal their records. I'm allowed to have my personal taste, too: I can say: "This song sounds great to me while I think this other song sucks". But to be fair we should not forget the good things when we feel bad about something else. We can be real and true instead of just praising everything dumb- mindedly. I'm quite sure that the positive conclusions of an open- eyed person will prove to be far more valuable in the long run than the pseudo- religious intolerance of the self- referencial "true" fans.

    Just my 0.02, as always. No offence intended. Peace and Love.

    Alex
  4. Once again thanks to everyone who has replied to me.

    Thank you
    WIRE
  5. I shall copy Yeah.

    Yes.
  6. I always liken it to the relationship one (ideally) has with one's family - you might not always like what they do, but it doesn't stop you loving them either way. I love U2, and would like to think I always will. However, I don't love every single thing they've ever recorded, I don't think they're above criticism etc., but that doesn't mean I'm gonna throw them out of my life because, say, they've taken half a decade to release their next bloody album
  7. I think we are the only ones who can criticise.. cos we love them anyway
  8. Well, I think that anyone can criticise anything, but I must admit that I find it a bit tiresome to hear or read in depth analysis of what U2 has done wrong. Sure, I don't like everything U2 has done, but I personally don't see much reason in focusing too much on what I don't like.

    What I'm also a bit tired of is criticism for criticism's sake and the "correct" opinions. An example:
    To claim that either War, TJT or AB is U2's best album is politically correct. You don't have to motivate your answer.
    If you want to be odd you might instead say that Zooropa or Pop is the best album. That's cool.
    If you say ATYCLB or HTDAAB, however, you have obviously not listened to their earlier albums... Etc. Just a feeling I get sometimes...

    Sorry if I seem negative here. Am I bugging you? I don't mean to bug ya.


  9. Exactly.



    I've found that at times I look at the band nowadays and say "they aren't what they used to be."


    It's ok to think highly of the band, but we shouldn't put them on a pedestal and call them perfect. They're only human, and their work is bound to not be flawless. Said flaws can also be a matter of personal opinion. So, each to their own, but I prefer to be realistic rather than optimistic.
  10. Originally posted by easports43:Exactly.



    I've found that at times I look at the band nowadays and say "they aren't what they used to be."


    It's ok to think highly of the band, but we shouldn't put them on a pedestal and call them perfect. They're only human, and their work is bound to not be flawless. Said flaws can also be a matter of personal opinion. So, each to their own, but I prefer to be realistic rather than optimistic.

    So cynical, yet so young.

  11. Dear WIRE,

    This is U2. We have heard that you are questioning our perfection. Please hand in your U2FanCard as well as any merchandise you've purchased over the years. Thanks for the good times but, really, if we allow you to question our greatness in all things, what's to stop others from doing the same? And then what would we have? Anarchy? Chaos? Entropy? Socialism (gasp)? Another Pop era? No thank you.

    Sincerely, U2























    obviously kidding