1. Originally posted by AllBecauseOfU2:Agree 100%.

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    Definitely agree with you on the idea that there's no real objective way to judge "the best" musician. But though he can't effectively be judged against any other singer, I think it's still fair to judge him against himself. If we're looking at Bono and only Bono, the range and depth he had from '84-'93 - maybe with the exception of the occasional Kermit the Frog vocals on the Joshua Tree Tour - doesn't come close to what it is in 2009. I don't think that's subjective. I know there's different factors that come in obviously, age and smoking and whatnot, but I think he's hit his peak, left it, and will never get it back, unfortunately.

    Not to say of course that he's currently completely unlistenable, but for the first time, for me at least, his vocals are actually beginning to be a distraction from the listening experience as a whole. I listened to a few of the Letterman performances earlier today and it was distracting to hear him struggle to hit the notes. Not like I'm going to hand in my tour tickets or anything, but it'll certainly be interesting to see how this tour will pan out.

    I definitely think that if you're gonna judge Bono's voice, you should judge it against himself - his highest points were during TUF in my opinion, but I think Bono's voice was at its unequivocal best the early 90s. For all it's gone through, and the strain of 30 years' wailing, I think his voice is still pretty good these days - it's better than it was in any time after the early 90s (although I loved his voice for the most part during Elevation - there was something strangely incredible that seemed to take his voice somewhere else when it was lacking in some respects; every night he was pouring himself out like no other time, and that makes up a lot for me). I like the Kermit the Frog description re. the JT era lol - it always bugged me how he was trying to almost grunge his voice up during that time, because for me it was unnecessary. Anyway, like I said, for me he really hit upon his best voice during Achtung because the overall range was fantastic and there was a lot of depth to his singing. He can still hit those notes nowadays but the clarity is lacking and at times it lacks oopmh, but the tone of his voice has changed dramatically since then so it's to be expected.
  2. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    I definitely think that if you're gonna judge Bono's voice, you should judge it against himself - his highest points were during TUF in my opinion, but I think Bono's voice was at its unequivocal best the early 90s. For all it's gone through, and the strain of 30 years' wailing, I think his voice is still pretty good these days - it's better than it was in any time after the early 90s (although I loved his voice for the most part during Elevation - there was something strangely incredible that seemed to take his voice somewhere else when it was lacking in some respects; every night he was pouring himself out like no other time, and that makes up a lot for me). I like the Kermit the Frog description re. the JT era lol - it always bugged me how he was trying to almost grunge his voice up during that time, because for me it was unnecessary. Anyway, like I said, for me he really hit upon his best voice during Achtung because the overall range was fantastic and there was a lot of depth to his singing. He can still hit those notes nowadays but the clarity is lacking and at times it lacks oopmh, but the tone of his voice has changed dramatically since then so it's to be expected.


    I don't want to discredit poor ol' Kermit, but yeah, there was no need for Bono to do that, lol. i definitely hear you on Elevation - there was some kind of power or something behind his voice that gave it that extra something (not to be too specific lol).

    Achtung era seems to be the meeting point for everyone. I'm listening to EBTTRT right now, and his falsetto just gave me chills. Oh ZooTV...why couldn't you last forever?
  3. Originally posted by AllBecauseOfU2:I don't want to discredit poor ol' Kermit, but yeah, there was no need for Bono to do that, lol. i definitely hear you on Elevation - there was some kind of power or something behind his voice that gave it that extra something (not to be too specific lol).

    Achtung era seems to be the meeting point for everyone. I'm listening to EBTTRT right now, and his falsetto just gave me chills. Oh ZooTV...why couldn't you last forever?

    'Cause we wouldn't have anything post-Zooropa, and I dunno about you but stuff like Breathe is worth Bono losing a bit of vocalicity
  4. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    'Cause we wouldn't have anything post-Zooropa, and I dunno about you but stuff like Breathe is worth Bono losing a bit of vocalicity


    HA, true actually.
  5. Originally posted by Maclove:Can Bono be recognized as one of the best singers of all time? Recently I saw one list: Top Male Singers of All Time, Bono was 5º...

    For me he belongs on the top 3, but then again that list had Mick Jagger in it and Rod Stewart( not doubting their musical talent but come on.... )

    What do you think?


    Good to have him that high...I would have put Mick, Roy Orbison, Roger Daltrey and others ahead of him...but not necessarily in that order.
  6. I agree with you all really, maybe it is my lack of knowledge, there are better singers than Bono, but i would like no one better to sing in U2, he is the main reason why U2 has become my "religion", for me he is the best really!

    It all comes down to personal tastes and technical knowledge, he may be overshadowed by many singers, but that passion, that inovation, the soul, he is just so diferent, I mean, just look at the contrast: Bono in the JT tour/album and Bono on the AB tour/album, it feels like it's not the same person anymore, and it is great

    One thing he doesn't have, a technical thing once again, is the "vibratto", so i guess there you can see some flaws

    One friend of mine said something I totally agree: " Bono's voice is not about technical stuff and that, it's purely made of strenght and power"
    I guess i agree, there are better than him, a lot better, but that force, that power and emotion he showed us in all his career, with the focus on the 84-93 period just shows us he has a great emotional voice

  7. About vibrato in response to Maclove, I don't think U2's music would benefit. Probably TUF to Zooropa he may have had the ability but it wouldn't suit the styles...Streets with a quiver?

    Anyway those MoS high notes he will have trouble with live. He can do it but not constantly. If he had troubles with Magnificent and the semi falsetto...it will be worse. Only so much ProTools can do to enhance those vocals before it becomes evident
  8. Yes, Bono definitely belongs in the top 3 of that list.

    Mick and Rod? Maybe..it's (as always) a matter of taste. What makes a good singer?

    I've ssen Mick Jagger on stage twice and yes: he still can sing very good, especially for an "old geezer" like him
    No seriously: Bono should be on the number 1 spot but he should be there together with Freddie Mercury in my opinion.
    But that's not such bad company to share the #1 spot, isn't it?