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  3. yeah, that seems like an obvious rush to get another single out
  4. Originally posted by U2wandererMusicTAP is reporting that a Magnificent EP will be released for the US market, for download on May 19 and on CD on June 9. Chris at The Ideal Copy has confirmed with his supplier that the EP from Interscope is titled Magnificent Remixes, though no track listing is yet available
  5. http://www.vimeo.com/4679276

    Video of Magnificent my friend did. It's not perfect and still needs some work but it's better then original.

    Check it out. ;)

  7. Or are you simply saying they're notable works for their having been commercially successful? TUF is often regarded as one of their noteworthy works because it was the point when they delved into unknown musical territory by bringing Eno and Lanois into the mix, but was it the commercial giant that HTDAAB was? Not at all.
  8. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    Or are you simply saying they're notable works for their having been commercially successful? TUF is often regarded as one of their noteworthy works because it was the point when they delved into unknown musical territory by bringing Eno and Lanois into the mix, but was it the commercial giant that HTDAAB was? Not at all.


    Well, obviously there is a correlation between the two factors, ie. a good album is likely to enjoy greater commercial success.

    And its hardly fair to compare the success of TUF with albums released while they held the status of 'biggest band' in the world ie. HTDAAB.

    And anyway TUF is quite comparable to HTDAAB in terms of quality. It's not like a masterpiece such as AB or JT failed to be a huge commercial success.
  9. Originally posted by AllBeacauseOfZoo:[..]

    Yes I too thought that 42 is a complete joke.....in fact I thought number 12 was poor for GOYB.....I think this is a classic....but to be honest I complained when Beautiful Day was over-played and kind of ruined the song for me after a while......maybe this album is for the fans only.....and maybe because of this we, the true fans, will love this album for longer...


    42 and, erm...out.

    Love the album but no more singles, please. Especially if we in the UK aren't going to be allowed to buy them.

    And as for that remix of Crazy Tonight. What is the point, exactly?
  11. Originally posted by vanquish:Well, obviously there is a correlation between the two factors, ie. a good album is likely to enjoy greater commercial success.

    And its hardly fair to compare the success of TUF with albums released while they held the status of 'biggest band' in the world ie. HTDAAB.

    And anyway TUF is quite comparable to HTDAAB in terms of quality. It's not like a masterpiece such as AB or JT failed to be a huge commercial success

    I think the first point is debatable seeing as I don't actually think the quality of an album means much these days where commercial success is concerned. The general feeling I detect when I talk to people nowadays is that there isn't much in the way of quality music around at the moment, yet albums are still selling the world over. I think what's more key is how an album is promoted etc., and I think most agree that NLOTH has had a raw deal where the commercial aspect of it is concerned. I'm not too keyed up on the music world c. 2004/5 but seeing as HTDAAB cleaned up at the Grammys, there can't have been much competition lol, and ATYCLB was the album that brought them back into the mainstream - we could argue day and night about whether it's better than Pop but a killer lead single does wonders for an album's success, as Beautiful Day proved (same as Vertigo, in fairness). If an album is made commercially viable, it looks after itself - NLOTH never had that kind of grounding unlike ATYCLB and HTDAAB because they were albums that connect easily with the mainstream music industry. The fact that JT and AB were amazing albums is, I feel, almost second place to the way they were broadcast on the commercial stage, JT being treated as the big album that really brought U2 to the forefront of the rock world and AB being the one where they reinvented themselves. I don't get the impression that many people outside of U2 fandom and those who know their music pretty well actually know much about the music on those respective albums though.
  12. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    I think the first point is debatable seeing as I don't actually think the quality of an album means much these days where commercial success is concerned. The general feeling I detect when I talk to people nowadays is that there isn't much in the way of quality music around at the moment, yet albums are still selling the world over. I think what's more key is how an album is promoted etc., and I think most agree that NLOTH has had a raw deal where the commercial aspect of it is concerned. I'm not too keyed up on the music world c. 2004/5 but seeing as HTDAAB cleaned up at the Grammys, there can't have been much competition lol, and ATYCLB was the album that brought them back into the mainstream - we could argue day and night about whether it's better than Pop but a killer lead single does wonders for an album's success, as Beautiful Day proved (same as Vertigo, in fairness). If an album is made commercially viable, it looks after itself - NLOTH never had that kind of grounding unlike ATYCLB and HTDAAB because they were albums that connect easily with the mainstream music industry. The fact that JT and AB were amazing albums is, I feel, almost second place to the way they were broadcast on the commercial stage, JT being treated as the big album that really brought U2 to the forefront of the rock world and AB being the one where they reinvented themselves. I don't get the impression that many people outside of U2 fandom and those who know their music pretty well actually know much about the music on those respective albums though.


    Note that I didnt say that an album being commercially successful means that it is a good album, or vice versa. Obviously that isn't the case (as we can see by the huge sales of 'artists' like Miley Cyrus etc), I was simply pointing out that good album has an increased likelihood of commercial success.
    And no matter what the band says (and as many disappointed critics pointed out) NLOTH was simply not a radically different album, like AB or Pop.
    Certainly it wasn't not radically different enough to blame its lack of chart/single success on it not being mainstream enough.

    Promotion definitely plays a big part in an albums success, clearly it was so with HTDAAB.
    But NLOTH has had quite an inordinate amount of publicity, with the band booking out Letterman, renaminds streets and their controversial BBC tie-up being chided as "the sort of publicity money can't buy". With only those few examples we see that the publicity for NLOTH is in a different league to what other artists can afford/command.

    With that in mind, I agree that the lack of a 'killer lead single' is what shot NLOTH in the foot. GOYB was a terrible choice, perhaps it would be a suitable if this was the Pop era, but when you'be come off two 'back-to-basics' traditional rock albums, you don't need to scare away your fanbase with cringeworthy lines like "sexy boots, boots, boots".


    They should have started off with something like Breathe or Crazy Tonight (which are the two songs closest in sound to the previous two albums).
    It seems that they decided to choose tracks that would convey the edgier direction that NLOTH took. But even then Boots was a bad choice, NLOTH2 would have made a better lead single, being less polarising than Boots, but still different enough to keep "sounds like same old U2" comments" at bay

    All in all, I really think the increasingly disappointing commercial success of NLOTH stems from the poor choices of the band and management, who seem to be rather out of touch with the general music market.
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