1. Hi,

    Forget everything I previously said about Jay-Z in the Haiti-thread and such...

    I just saw an interview with him on the Oprah-show on TV and my mouth almost fell open.
    This guy is really cool and open about his personal life. They talked about his music (obviously) and about family matters and the way he talked about it, gave me a whole new perspective on the guy. I'm still no fan of his music, but the man himself is 100% okay.
    So, no more negative remarks from me here...

  2. Jay-Z is the only rap artist I like. I do like his music, especially 'The Black Album'. I also like Empire State of Mind. I think his collaboration with Linkin Park is fantastic. The songs mix extremely well.

    Of course, I didn't like 'Stranded'. Possibly the worst thing Jay-Z, Rihanna, The Edge and Bono have ever approached. The song is awful but it was for a cause of course. But a great artist!
  3. Yeah I quite like Jay-Z he has grown on me in the last month or so. I love his Run this Town song with Rihanna and Kanye West, 99 Problems is great and of course Empire State of Mind. His songs with Beyonce '03 Bonnie& Clide and De Javu are mint!
  4. you watch Oprah?


  5. You mean, you watched Oprah? Like, you sat down, actually witnessed Oprah in action? You really, truly saw the woman be like a pyschiatrist when she asks questions?

    At that time, we usually have a cooking show on (Ready Steady Cook, where they have celebrity judges, or at least they supposedly are, and you have to vote for the capsicum or the other vegetable), Shortland Street (a really dodgy New Zealand hospital drama show, it's so dodgy it's not even funny), Parlimentary Question Time (which I lose interest in really quickly, although their arguments can be great viewing) or another cooking show or some gossip shit.

    I vote with my remote. I have never watched Oprah because she gives me the shits.


    Oh, and Jay-Z. Nah, not for me. He's even more generic than the last rapper or whatever he is.
  6. He does not even come into the top 10 hip hop greats.....when people say "he is the only hip hop artist I like"......its just because they have only heard 1 hip hop artist......Obviously I have no problem with people that like Jay Z...but it does annoy me when people say they hate hip hop except for jay z- basically because they are two different things.
  7. Originally posted by AllBeacauseOfZoo:He does not even come into the top 10 hip hop greats.....when people say "he is the only hip hop artist I like"......its just because they have only heard 1 hip hop artist......Obviously I have no problem with people that like Jay Z...but it does annoy me when people say they hate hip hop except for jay z- basically because they are two different things.


    Grandmaster Flash, Nas, Run-DMC, Teddy Riley and Rodney Jerkins are the very first five that come to mind.

    Jay-Z is all about the over-commercialisation of hip-hop and the bastardisation of it - making hip-hop friendly for those who can't make up their own minds.


    "A hip hop MC has to be more than just somebody who can sit and piece together a few rhymes. In hip hop there is nothing more objective then one’s personal opinion of what constitutes not only a good rapper but a great one. Reggie had thought of Jay-Z as a great rapper… well until Jigga breezed through the capital and “fleeced” Hip hop heads with his refined brand of predatory capitalism. Rockstone is still perfecting a mean punchline for a few diss bars he might be putting on wax soon.
    He’s peeved: “African Americans romanticize Africa, you know. These are the big wigs, these ‘cats’ got money and they’re trying to act like there is nobody here. When they go to Europe they don’t charge that much plus they try to do collabos with these European artistes. Is he saying that we don’t count and then he comes here and charges like five times the price? They will pin the over-pricing on the promoters but if people are getting pimped like that, Jay Z is the king of his castle and he could have made a statement about it so at least we know he is not about extorting people. Matter of fact he was supposed to be getting water for these same people who love his music. How the f#*k do you turn around and over charge them. Motherf*@^$# didn’t even take a picture with any of the artistes who opened for him.”

    Well that kind of puts Reggie’s boycott in perspective -- the fact that Jigga came to a third world country and charged between $75 to $105 dollars seems very much contrary to the ‘keeping it real’ anthems in his songs. In Nigeria tickets went for as much as $800. That’s minus the extra bucks that came along with black market pricing.

    “I was one of the first to start ‘bigging’ him up when I heard he was coming to Africa. I actually wanted to meet him. Better yet I thought he had to know who I was and how much grinding I put in this thing to make the environment conducive for him to be here. If he checks out my history, he will know that I’m like ‘Kool Herk’ or Africa ‘Bambata’. Can you reject something like that? This is a man who gives props to dead rappers like Tupac and Biggie as part of his stage act. Do you think any of them Negros like Mos Def or Talib Kwale would come here and do that? Or you think Tupac would come to the motherland and disrespect like the way Jigga did when his mother is Afeni Shakur?”

    Reggie wasn’t looking at Jigga as an artiste. He wanted Jay Z to be aware of who he is so he can become a mouthpiece for the people, as supposed to all the Ghanaian artistes being opening acts with the possibility of Jay Z not even watching them perform. Rock sights this as another reason he boycotted the concert plus not being able to watch one of his favorite artistes should also make him double pissed off.

    “If I had gotten on that stage, he knows I would have pulled his coat about the prices. What the f#*k happens to us black folk when we get up there. Matter of fact, the Negro that made him an ambassador for this water project was born here so he could have at least humored us with just a little respect. Somebody might be out there calling me arrogant and think I’m just doing this to get my shine. F#*k shine I need. If you check my track record, I was opening for artistes Jigga would have loved to be on a bill with back in the day. But forget that, I’m responsible for a whole genre of music that is putting food on people’s tables. Urban clothing, freedom of speech, the attitude and the culture all came out as an extension of Hiplife. Jay Z is the CEO of Def Jam and he can make power moves that could empower this movement that I’m about. If you throw me on stage like I’m nobody and my people couldn’t even speak for me, that ain’t right. Do you know what would have happened if I walked onto the stage with Jay Z and he saw the love that my people gave me? That would have opened a way for dialogue.”

    Maybe what Jay-Z also didn’t know is that one of the people that helped Reggie set off Hiplife works for him. Rab Bakari sent a package containing Reggie’s dossier to Jigga through his personal assistant, Carlene. Whether the package got to Jigga at the moment isn’t very clear. “I was supposed to go on stage with Rita Marley and Jigga. That’s Bob Marley’s wife and you sh*t on her like that? It wouldn’t have hurt Jigga nothing to do that. At the moment I feel like the streets are calling for another Reggie album so I just might be heading back to the studio. All I wanted was recognition for Hiplife but obviously Jay Z didn’t think we were important so he came in, made his money and that’s all that mattered to him.”

    So much for a great MC whose claim to fame was ‘repping’ for the have-nots.
  8. Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]

    You mean, you watched Oprah? Like, you sat down, actually witnessed Oprah in action? You really, truly saw the woman be like a pyschiatrist when she asks questions?


    Guilty as charged..... sorry!

    I won't ever do it again, I promise !!!!
  9. The reason isn't because she's like a psychologist. It's 'cos she's hypocritical to those that matter most to her.
  10. Originally posted by KieranU2:Jay-Z is the only rap artist I like. I do like his music, especially 'The Black Album'. I also like Empire State of Mind. I think his collaboration with Linkin Park is fantastic. The songs mix extremely well.

    Of course, I didn't like 'Stranded'. Possibly the worst thing Jay-Z, Rihanna, The Edge and Bono have ever approached. The song is awful but it was for a cause of course. But a great artist!


    I could not possibly agree with this post any more.

    I think '99 Problems' is one of the best rap songs ever..well, rapped. And I think "Dirt of Your Shoulder" is an awesome, badass jam too, which is what rap should be all about. Not just your "pimps and hos, and how many caps you've busted in a cracka's ass"...its born out of music that was about nothing more than a good feeling- traditional African music.

    With that being said, "Dirt Off Your Bittersweet Shoulder" tops Jay-Z's work, which is the mashup between Jay-Z and The Verve...it works so well, I'm literally astounded every time Jay-Z kicks into the violin intro...SO SO good.

  11. I love Jay, I think he's an awesome rapper.
    Anyone ever listened to the Grey Album? Danger Mouse mixed Jay Z's Black Album with the Beatles' White Album, it's one of the most fascinating albums I've ever listened to


    No N.W.A.?
    Come on people!