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  1. I agree, and the key word is "state-run". The reason why crisis happened in the USA and then spread in the western world is that individuals have to much freedom and not so much responsibilities.
  2. Do you want everything run by your government? I wouldn't. It is worrying how little politicians really know.
  3. Originally posted by Risto:Do you want everything run by your government? I wouldn't. It is worrying how little politicians really know.


    Well look where we are now. I wouldn't want everything run by the goverment, I'm just saying that this crisis was caused by TOO MUCH freedom of some individuals. And too much freedom often means lack of responsibility.

    Now we're in shit and China isn't.

    And after those bastards from Wall Street ripped off people of America, goverment gave them money from national reserves. And people that are left homeless...who cares for them.

    In China those guys from Wall Street would get bullet in their head, and it would be deserved.
  4. You seriously think Wall Street was the only reason?

    Reason was that millions in the USA took out loans they could not afford. When this came out the system took a hit there and here.

    Many of the now homeless people there couldnt afford the house they lived in with someone else's money. Some people are stupid to think they can buy an huge house, a new car every year and a vacation to the other side of the world with a loan. They don't understand that a loan is always more expensive than paying it with your own money. If you can't afford it yourself, you cant afford to loan as well.

    BTW: Nothing wrong with where we are now. Wouldn't trade it for China.
  5. Originally posted by Risto:You seriously think Wall Street was the only reason?

    Reason was that millions in the USA took out loans they could not afford. When this came out the system took a hit there and here.

    Many of the now homeless people there couldnt afford the house they lived in with someone else's money. Some people are stupid to think they can buy an huge house, a new car every year and a vacation to the other side of the world with a loan. They don't understand that a loan is always more expensive than paying it with your own money. If you can't afford it yourself, you cant afford to loan as well.

    BTW: Nothing wrong with where we are now. Wouldn't trade it for China.


    Yea, its down to the idiots who always want to live beyond their means.
  6. There, Chris put it absolutely right. Living beyond one's means is the main reason why the crisis happened. US cracked, Hungary cracked (but there's more to it in this case), Greece is cracking now...
  7. Originally posted by Risto:You seriously think Wall Street was the only reason?

    Reason was that millions in the USA took out loans they could not afford. When this came out the system took a hit there and here.

    Many of the now homeless people there couldnt afford the house they lived in with someone else's money. Some people are stupid to think they can buy an huge house, a new car every year and a vacation to the other side of the world with a loan. They don't understand that a loan is always more expensive than paying it with your own money. If you can't afford it yourself, you cant afford to loan as well.

    BTW: Nothing wrong with where we are now. Wouldn't trade it for China.


    You should see "Capitalism: A Love Story" documentary and you would see how many average families that didn't live like rockstars were thrown out of their homes.

    Human greed is the ONLY reason for all of this.
  8. I dont need a documentary to know people got hurt. But the greed of people living above their standards caused this. When the boys on Wall Street found out they weren't getting their money back the system took a punch.

    After some banks went bankrupt some of the 'innocent' went down as well. But there is a risk when you loan money. If you are willing to take that risk then you are on your own when things go wrong imho.

    The real innocent people, who didnt buy that car, or live in a slightly smaller house are paying the debts of the people who spent more than they could affort.

    So why save instead of loaning ? When other people will pay your debts? Good question

    Summary: life isnt fair, get used to it


  9. Not really no. There are a bunch of really wierd people pushing for Obama's removal based on birth, but I think its a waste of time. We'll never know for sure.....


    I do think its curious though, that he is the only US president that never had to prove citizenship......


    I think it shows that people are incredibly stupid that they still worship him like some rockstar/god even though he has failed to keep his 3 big campaign promises....
  10. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    I agree, and the key word is "state-run". The reason why crisis happened in the USA and then spread in the western world is that individuals have to much freedom and not so much responsibilities.



    Freedom is a good thing. Live with it. Abuse it. Love it. Never settle for anything else.
  11. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Well look where we are now. I wouldn't want everything run by the goverment, I'm just saying that this crisis was caused by TOO MUCH freedom of some individuals. And too much freedom often means lack of responsibility.

    Now we're in shit and China isn't.

    And after those bastards from Wall Street ripped off people of America, goverment gave them money from national reserves. And people that are left homeless...who cares for them.

    In China those guys from Wall Street would get bullet in their head, and it would be deserved.



    Your coming off like a deranged far-leftie.
  12. Originally posted by Risto:You seriously think Wall Street was the only reason?

    Reason was that millions in the USA took out loans they could not afford. When this came out the system took a hit there and here.

    Many of the now homeless people there couldnt afford the house they lived in with someone else's money. Some people are stupid to think they can buy an huge house, a new car every year and a vacation to the other side of the world with a loan. They don't understand that a loan is always more expensive than paying it with your own money. If you can't afford it yourself, you cant afford to loan as well.

    BTW: Nothing wrong with where we are now. Wouldn't trade it for China.


    Thank you Chris. Hit the nail right on the head.
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