1. Originally posted by Guenther:[..]

    Um...yeah. An album? Hold on a second....

























    *10 minutes later*
    Sorry I fell out of my chair laughing so hard.......



    Guess you won't bother listening to it, then. Shame.


  2. What is racist about saying the government is trying to preserve Jewish votes? Dont call me a racist. US governments have always tried to win the Jewish vote and my previous comment was suggesting the same thing.

    Being from America, I assume you are aware that although making up a small percentage of the electorate, Jewish voters are highly concetrated in states traditionally renowned for swing voting. Florida is the prime example of this. A huge effort went toward swaying voters, especially in South Florida and a key vote winner was how the parties would support the Israeli state.

    But then again, I assume you know all of this.



  3. If they surrender peacefully, as the first five boats did, there wont be one.
  4. Originally posted by germcevoy:Anybody saw the autopsie results of the first ship boarding? 9 out of the 12 killed received head shots. That's not self defence, that is bloody murder.

    One man was shot from 45cm!!



    Genreally speaking, if you have to shoot someone, it best to make sure they wont be getting back up.


  5. See above comment.
  6. Originally posted by LikeASong:Execution. Amen.

    Yes, this is turning into something more dangerous. I hope the Israeli government stop acting like war criminals and start acting like a democratic (???) government; I hope they don' dare to attack more ships, moreover if the Turkish prime minister is there, and deffended by their Navy... Lets see how it turns out.


    PM? It took me a while to realize that you meant Prime Minister and not Private Message xD...


    Human rights vbiolations happen everyday in the middle east. Why do we focus on Israel?
  7. Originally posted by LikeASong:They've boarded the Irish ship but there haven't been any incidents. They want to take it easy now that the whole world is staring at them.


    Or beacuse the Irish weren't trying to make a scene.
  8. Originally posted by thejonner:As long as Israel has the US behind them - and anyone who thinks that Israel is anything other than a strategic US outpost given military funding to the tune of $US 3 billion a year and the means to construct a stash of nuclear weapons is a moron - they will continue act in any way that damn well pleases them, much like the US. I would urge each and every single one of you to seek out Grant Wakefield's masterpiece album, "The Fire This Time," if you're in any doubt as to to the West's stance on the Middle East.


    You do realize France is acvtually the reason israel has nuclear weapons.
  9. Originally posted by Guenther:I read the article from the british survivor of the flotilla and something stood out to me:

    "She said the activists had set up a makeshift medical centre below deck on the previous evening, after Israeli naval vessels were detected on the ship's radar."



    Why would they set up the medical centre when the Isreali ships were detected unless they expected the situation to turn violent the day before the ship was boarded?


    Exactly.
  10. Originally posted by PEDRO67:[..]

    What is racist about saying the government is trying to preserve Jewish votes? Dont call me a racist. US governments have always tried to win the Jewish vote and my previous comment was suggesting the same thing.

    Being from America, I assume you are aware that although making up a small percentage of the electorate, Jewish voters are highly concetrated in states traditionally renowned for swing voting. Florida is the prime example of this. A huge effort went toward swaying voters, especially in South Florida and a key vote winner was how the parties would support the Israeli state.

    But then again, I assume you know all of this.




    That I do. I stand by calling you a borderline racist.


    As someone who is actually trained in formal speaking, I'd say up till recently I was winning, since I was actually making arguements, and presentling points, well you guys were just bashing Israel, and insulting me. That being said, your arguements have improved, so I look forward to debateing with all of you like adults know.


  11. I'll tell you what - I'll check it out abd get back to you, if you tell me why you think this guy is right?