World Cup 2010 | South Africa - Official Topic

Originally posted by yeah:[..]

Don't think anyone here hates England.

I think the reason why some people are laughing about England being out is
a) the english yellow press
b) the english behaviour (and here it mostly comes down to the yellow press again) after they get knocked out off a tournament. Every 4 years you can read and see that it never is due to a weak team. It always is the referee, the Fifa, the turf or general bad circumstances...

Originally posted by u2spear:[..]

There's no argument, this time it was the Refferee's fault

Ps. if you didn't see my appology its a couple of pages back..

Originally posted by u2spear:[..]

There's no argument, this time it was the Refferee's fault

Ps. if you didn't see my appology its a couple of pages back..

Originally posted by yeah:[..]

Of course the referee was wrong. But he surely isn't the only one to blame. Even with a 2:2 in halftime, noone can say what might have happened. I'd like to think that it wouldn't have changed much.
In the first 30 minutes England didn't even have one shot on the german goal. They had no pace, no creativity, just physical power - and didn't turn that into domination. England had 20 good minutes. That's just not enough to beat that german team in good form.
But it'll help you that Argentina will kick out Germany.

Originally posted by u2spear:[..]

Well Germany would have been demoralised and we would have got back into it more. Particularly with 2 goals in 2 minutes. Germany weren't even that good they scored off 2 counter attack goals which wouldn't have come about at 2-2...

I hope Germany beat Argentina though, Argentina are cheating scumbags

Originally posted by u2spear:[..]

Well Germany would have been demoralised and we would have got back into it more. Particularly with 2 goals in 2 minutes. Germany weren't even that good they scored off 2 counter attack goals which wouldn't have come about at 2-2...

Originally posted by yeah:[..]

That's 1 possibility. Another one would be that Germany would have shown the same concentration they had in the first 30 minutes and kick in 2 other beauties. Like the first 2.

We'll never know. It's that drama that makes the game this great.

Originally posted by iTim:[..]

It's also the bad decisions that tarnish the sports credibility. Two today, USA had goals disallowed, Kaka's red card, Chile red against Spain when Torres fell over, Cahill red, Henry handball. All key decisions in this World Cup campaign that have been wrong I'm afraid to say.

Admittedly red cards aren't as clear cut as blatent handballs and goal line incidents or clear cut offsides. But still...

Fifa need to stop sitting on their high horses and accept that technology would go a long way in making the game fairer. Even if it's for just major tournaments when it matters most. They could make it a condition of the stadia selected in the World Cup bid to have some sort of video replay system in place for quick reference. That way, Fifa spend nothing.

Gah. Give me a UEFA tournament anyday.

Originally posted by u2opra:[..]

Agree.

Not using technology in this day and age is completely ridiculous. Not using it is almost like welcoming the divers, the hand ballers, the off-siders and the foulers with open arms.

Originally posted by germcevoy:Sepp Bollock must have some reason not to go with technology. Any conspiracy theories knocking around? Cost isn't an issue so what is it?

"At the 124th Annual General meeting of the International Football Association Board (IFAB) in Zurich on 6 March 2010, which, as is the case with every FIFA World Cup™ year, was chaired by myself on behalf of FIFA, the IFAB decided not to implement technology in football.

FIFA supports this decision, based on the following points:

The universality of the game: one of the main objectives of FIFA is to protect the universality of the game of association football. This means that the game must be played in the same way no matter where you are in the world. If you are coaching a group of teenagers in any small town around the world, they will be playing with the same rules as the professional players they see on TV.

The simplicity and universality of the game of association football is one of the reasons for its success. Men, women, children, amateurs and professionals all play the same game all over the world.

The human aspect: no matter which technology is applied, at the end of the day a decision will have to be taken by a human being. This being the case, why remove the responsibility from the referee to give it to someone else? It is often the case that, even after a slow-motion replay, ten different experts will have ten different opinions on what the decision should have been.

Fans love to debate any given incident in a game. It is part of the human nature of our sport.

FIFA’s goal is to improve the quality of refereeing, making referees more professional and better prepared, and to assist referees as much as possible. This is also the reason why refereeing experiments (such as with additional referees or the role of the fourth official) will continue to be analysed, to see how referees can be supported.

The financial aspect: the application of modern technologies can be very costly, and therefore not applicable on a global level. Many matches, even at the highest level, are not even televised. For example, we have close to 900 preliminary matches for the FIFA World Cup™, and the same rules need to be applied in all matches of the same competition. The rules need to be the same for all association football matches worldwide.

The experiments conducted by companies on technology in football are also expensive. The decision of the IFAB, after careful consideration and examination of studies conducted in recent years, to give a clear answer on technology in football is also positive in this regard as these companies will now not spend significant amounts of money on projects which in the end will not be implemented.

The extended use of technology: the question has already been raised: if the IFAB had approved goal-line technology, what would prevent the approval of technology for other aspects of the game? Every decision in every area of the pitch would soon be questioned.

The nature of the game: association football is a dynamic game that cannot be stopped in order to review a decision. If play were to be stopped to take a decision, it would break up the rhythm of the game and possibly deny a team the opportunity to score a goal. It would also not make sense to stop play every two minutes to review a decision, as this would go against the natural dynamism of the game."