1. Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]

    I don't think a penalty is a worthy advantage when a 100% certain goal is illegally blocked. A penalty with no keeper perhaps. An attempt at goal is no substitute over a certain goal. Neither is a 1 man advantage with 0 time left on the clock though.


    Ok, but what about the point that the chance to score this 100% certain goal resulted from other "illegal" incidents?
  2. Originally posted by yeah:[..]

    Ok, but what about the point that the chance to score this 100% certain goal resulted from other "illegal" incidents?


    The ref should have spotted them. I dislike Suarez not just for this incident. My annoyance here is that Ghana didn't really gain anything from it but a sense of dejection. Sure they could have banged in the penalty but that's miles harder than watching a goal bound effort being caught from going in.

    Football is becoming an increasingly hard game to love and watch nowdays and it's down to little tits like Suarez. If everybody in the game was honest there would be no problems. If you are impeded to the point when you cannot stay on your feet then go down. If you cannot prevent a ball from crossing the line then let it cross the line.

    Thank god there's cricket
  3. True, but thats because it pays off to cheat.


  4. Exactly so. Punishments do not fit the crimes. Fifa need these big names on the pitch in front of big audiences, it makes money. France were better off in the World Cup that Ireland because of big names. Remember the seeding of the play-off matches (a rule only introduced before the play-off draw)? That was to give the bigger teams (and the big name players) a better chance of making it through. The game is dead at the top level.
  5. FIFA wont do a thing about it. Not as long Blatter is there and money is more important than the game.


  6. Why should they? The penalty that was meant to punish the cheating was obtained through cheating.

    The Ireland thing is the same as England's 2:2 thingy.
  7. Its just most people dont want to see a team win if they use methods like this.
  8. Originally posted by yeah:[..]

    Why should they? The penalty that was meant to punish the cheating was obtained through cheating.

    The Ireland thing is the same as England's 2:2 thingy.


    One cheat was spotted, the other was missed. That is a sad argument to make but one that is valid in this shambles of a game.

    I'm not saying Ireland would have got through minus the hand ball, they had more than 2 clear chances to put the game to bed within the 90 minutes that were inexcusably passed up. Fifa rule the game though and they have the power to stamp this type of cheating out of the game. They don't do it though. France could have drew Portugal in that play-off but that would have meant that one big team wasn't going to be at the World Cup generating cash for Fifa. So let's seed the draw to give the big boys an easier route.


  9. Yep, that's the destiny of the smaller teams. Same in every draw for every international (and sometimes national) competition. And let's face it, people want it that way.
  10. Its the same during tennis tournaments. But Gerard is right that the FIFA does not want to fix all issues.

    All cheating would be over if diving, hands, etc was punished hard during and/or after the game. It would make an example of Suarez, but 3 months total suspension doesnt sound to bad to me. Lets see how much a ball gets handled after that.
  11. Originally posted by yeah:[..]

    Yep, that's the destiny of the smaller teams. Same in every draw for every international (and sometimes national) competition. And let's face it, people want it that way.


    A good underdog run in a competition is as good for the neutral as watching any of the big teams (who are often disappointing). Anyway, football is zero to do with what we want, it's about what makes most money for those at the top of the ladder.
  12. Originally posted by Risto:
    It would make an example of Suarez, but 3 months total suspension doesnt sound to bad to me. Lets see how much a ball gets handled after that.


    They can't make an example of Suarez. There are rules. They would need to change the rules first.