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  1. Originally posted by LikeASong:If Bush had been Obama's oponent, the argument of "You're not voting Obama - You're voting abainst Bush" would be perfectly valid. But John McCain (someone who has completely disapperared from the political stage and scene) was not Bush, had no big amount of enemies and was no danger or possible harm himself - he wasn't that radical on the right wing either. Just a normal Republican with a normal political profile. So the USA wasn't voting against McCain (we can discuss if they were voting against Sarah Palin anyway )...

    On November 4th, USA elected Obama. They knew what they were voting (most of the people even expected more radical, deep and quicker changes!!!!), and they chose it.


    Palin screwed the repubs. The ones that where fans of McCains thought she was too extreme, while her fans thought McCain was to moderate.

    Obma managed to trick the vast majoriety of American voters into beliveing he was a moderate.
  2. Its official. Under Obama's new financial reform bill, the government will now know every credit transaction made by every citizen. In honor of how close we are to 1984 territory, I post this.




    What? I dig that song.


  3. Meh, useless, the better idea would be to allow debit cards only. When using cards, everyone would be able to spend only the money they actually have then. All this easy access to money, loans and mortgages was one of, if not the main reason why the crisis started. Both Clinton and Bush screwed it there.
  4. Originally posted by yuri31:[..]

    Meh, useless, the better idea would be to allow debit cards only. When using cards, everyone would be able to spend only the money they actually have then. All this easy access to money, loans and mortgages was one of, if not the main reason why the crisis started. Both Clinton and Bush screwed it there.


    +1
  5. Originally posted by yuri31:[..]

    Meh, useless, the better idea would be to allow debit cards only. When using cards, everyone would be able to spend only the money they actually have then. All this easy access to money, loans and mortgages was one of, if not the main reason why the crisis started. Both Clinton and Bush screwed it there.


    Agreed.
  6. Originally posted by yuri31:[..]
    Meh, useless, the better idea would be to allow debit cards only. When using cards, everyone would be able to spend only the money they actually have then. All this easy access to money, loans and mortgages was one of, if not the main reason why the crisis started. Both Clinton and Bush screwed it there.


    That's good idea but it's also paradox, because as I told before, most of the money in capitalism doesn't have any back up, and thats why the whole system fell down.

    If all people start to use their money, you know you go to a bank, take your money and go shopping, system would fall apart again because banks only hold 3-10% of the money that people give in banks.

    Not onla Clinton and Bush screwed it, the whole world is screwed. For example, in Croatia, every single human being is is in debt of 10.000 euros because our debt to other countries got so high.

    Banks give us money, they know that we won't be able to return it, but they're happy anyway because they know that then they will be in position to sanction us.

    And now I see that every USA citizen is in debt for $42,919.96 http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

    Sometimes I ask myself how this world even function.
  7. Why dont you move to Venezua? You'ed like it there.
  8. Korea...... mmmmmmm...... not good
  9. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    That's good idea but it's also paradox, because as I told before, most of the money in capitalism doesn't have any back up, and thats why the whole system fell down.

    If all people start to use their money, you know you go to a bank, take your money and go shopping, system would fall apart again because banks only hold 3-10% of the money that people give in banks.

    Not onla Clinton and Bush screwed it, the whole world is screwed. For example, in Croatia, every single human being is is in debt of 10.000 euros because our debt to other countries got so high.

    Banks give us money, they know that we won't be able to return it, but they're happy anyway because they know that then they will be in position to sanction us.

    And now I see that every USA citizen is in debt for $42,919.96 http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

    Sometimes I ask myself how this world even function.


    The debt is not only to other countries but also to companies and 'shareholders'. AKA investments.
  11. Also gold as back up is overrated, its just the value we give it. If currencies are doing bad, gold is doing good and vice versa.

    We had years of lower gold prices as well during the 60s ? (From the top of my head) Other currencies and materials were much more importent then (like steel and some new technology plastics).

    When culture changes its not unthinkable that the gold prices drop. Maybe we'll wear € 500 /kg polymers as juwelry then


  12. Dont tell the ETA. Or countries with other minorities that are being ignored Independence is nice, but what about minorities in Kosovo now? Let them be indepent as well?
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