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  2. I tried to download them...but the links are down!! =(

    Could somebody upload them again?
  3. (Bump)

    fix of the links pretty please
  4. I appreciate this work, please put at disposal
  6. very cool .. thanx a lot
  7. Originally posted by NanazocaI tried to download them...but the links are down!! =(

    Could somebody upload them again?


    [2]

    In Mediafire, can someone?
  9. I highly recommend 'Phisty's calls to Dame Edna Everage (well known Australian comedian), they're hilarious! That's Melbourne 2 (11/13/93) and Sydney 1 (11/26/93)

  10. Hi peoples,
    Great to see fellow U2 fans here. As you've guessed i'm new here. From South Africa, and i went to their concert in February. I sat very high up in a 90 000 seater stadium but was still great to see them live.

    Just curious. On the Zootv opening, it shows the nazi youth rally video.

    Can someone please explain why U2 used that ? This is not a poltically motivated post.
    U2 also seem to have a thing or two with German, i.e. Achtung Baby, and some of the text across the screens were also german.

    Just curious as to what the fascination with the German language is and also the nazi youth video ?
    thanks
  11. I'm not sure that this is the right place for this question and perhaps a mod can move it, but let me try and give you some background on the German theme.

    First of all Germany (Berlin) is critical in the conception of the album, Achtung Baby; watch the various documentaries for more info.

    For example Zoo Station takes its title from Bahnhof Zoologischer Garten. The exact place used for the the early recordings is Hansa Studios in Berlin, a decadent Ballroom from the 1920s also used by the nazis for parties. Brian Eno recorded there with Bowie (Berlin trilogy) as did Iggy Pop and Lou Reed. Germany to U2 (or any music enthusiast) also means the Beatles' Hamburg days, Elvis' army days, or Kraftwerk. The Edge was listening to bands such as Einstrürzende Neubauten when writing AB.

    U2 went there just after the wall came down. Unfortunately with the reunification of Germany came also a resurgence of nazism and fascism, as well as nostalgia for the communist era. The infatuation with Berlin becomes much clearer once you've been there yourself. Having been to pre-unification East-Berlin myself, I can attest to the city's influence on one's thinking. The place is simply full of history and U2 picked up on that, as well as history in the making, with not just the reunification of Germany, but also the lifting of the iron curtain, the opening up of Eastern Europe, the war in Yugoslavia, the promise of a new Europe and the danger of the old Europe rearing its head again, with ethnic conflicts and nationalism, war and genocide. As the tour progressed the Gulf war also became a main theme for the show, lending even more militaristic aspects to the set.

    The title (Achtung Baby) is considered to be a mistaken refence to the movie/musical: the Producers (by Mel Brooks) which ridicules and spoofs various aspects of nazism, using a fictional musical as the setting (Springtime for Hitler). In much of the stage show for ZooTV/Zooropa, various aspects of militarism, nazism or totalitarianism are used in a similar way, for example:

    the opening sequence (where Bono imitates Dr.Strangelove)
    the blue uniforms in the last part of the set (see my avatar),
    the burning crosses/swastikas in BTBS,
    and as you've already mentioned the drummer boy from Leni Riefenstahl's masterpiece: Triumph des Willens.

    Despite her nazi connections and propaganda work, Riefenstahl is considered one of the great directors of all time, inventing many aspects of cinematography, her portrail of the nazi rallies is legendary (and scary in context). U2 understood the irony of placing their show (and message) within the settings of a mass rally and the audience clapping along to the opening sequence with the nazi drummer boy is poignant example of this. The question of course is: how many in the audience realised this at the time?

    The heavy message of ZooTV is deliberately packaged in light entertainment; McPhisto's rather shallow phone calls are not as important as the monologues, where he (the Devil) talks about his influence on history.

    Also take into account that direct video linkups to wartime Sarajevo were cut after a few shows, because they were simply to heavy for the audience to take in during a rock concert. They would've offered a striking contrast with some of the imagery used in the show.

    All of this is of course just a front, an act, packaging to obscure the real content, in much the same way that the Fly/Mirrorball Man/McPhisto are characters to express (and ridicule) certain aspects of the cult of personality, celebrity, vanity, shallowness, emptiness, greed etc. and hold up a mirror to the audience.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_Kinder_vom_Bahnhof_Zoo *
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Trilogy +
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstrzende_Neubauten +
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostalgie
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_Yugoslavia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Producers_(1968_film) *
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Strangelove *
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_of_the_Will *

    Please note that nothing in my post is lifted from wikipedia, but from memory and experience, but I've included these links so you can check some aspects for yourself. Four of these links [*] are movies that I can recommend to anyone. In fact I would say thay are compulsary viewing! The two marked [+] are links to music essential in understanding Achtung Baby/Zooropa.
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