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  1. OK. I don't know if I will agree with the answer you might give me but, why do you love vinyl? Nostalgia by any chance?


  2. Partially nostalgia. The first music I ever bought myself with my own money was on vinyl. But some of it is the tactile sensation of holding it, the solidity, the dense black gloss of it. And it's the artwork too. The scale of a cd is just too small to create anything as beautiful as an LP cover. But the sound is different too, warmer and more organic. Even I can hear it and believe me, that's no mean feat these days.

    But look, in the end it's like caviar or anal sex - either you like it or you don't and what anyone else says will have little effect on you.
  3. Originally posted by sonia_lastrega:[..]

    But some of it is the tactile sensation of holding it, the solidity, the dense black gloss of it. And it's the artwork too. The scale of a cd is just too small to create anything as beautiful as an LP cover. But the sound is different too, warmer and more organic. Even I can hear it and believe me, that's no mean feat these days.


    I do not like holding vinyls because they are too big and bulky too carry around, but I do like the look of them. I agree about the cover/packaging, as I said previously that is the only thing vinyl does better than CD.

    I understand that the sound is different, but how is it warmer and more organic? Just because it's on vinyl that doesn't mean that it sounds how musicians wanted you to hear it. You actually hear more on CD and with high quality (Well, at least for CD's made in the 80's and 90's - and some 00's)
  4. Originally posted by bobplaysthedrums:[..]
    I understand that the sound is different, but how is it warmer and more organic? Just because it's on vinyl that doesn't mean that it sounds how musicians wanted you to hear it. You actually hear more on CD and with high quality (Well, at least for CD's made in the 80's and 90's - and some 00's)


    Vinyl is quite literally higher sound quality than a CD. Like, it's not an opinion...it's a fact. There's a much realer sound to vinyl because its lossless audio.
  5. Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:[..]

    Vinyl is quite literally higher sound quality than a CD. Like, it's not an opinion...it's a fact. There's a much realer sound to vinyl because its lossless audio.


    No it's not. Listen to your vinyl then listen to the CD version (preferably a CD version from the 20th century) then come back and reply. Vinyl has got distortion and the sound quality gets worse everytime you play it. How is that better than CD?

    Question: Are you one of those vinyl audiophiles?
  6. Originally posted by bobplaysthedrums:[..]

    No it's not. Listen to your vinyl then listen to the CD version (preferably a CD version from the 20th century) then come back and reply. Vinyl has got distortion and the sound quality gets worse everytime you play it. How is that better than CD?

    Question: Are you one of those vinyl audiophiles?


    Nope, I've only ever purchased two albums on vinyl.

    But...

    Read/try to understand this

    What you've said is exactly what I was talking about...forming your own opinions while listening to the different formats is one thing, and that's fine if it makes you feel better- but there is a literal, scientific reason why vinyl actually sounds better than a CD. Admittedly, the potential for damage and wear to a vinyl record is greater than that of a CD, but think of it this way...

    At the moment you purchase a CD, and the exact same moment you purchase vinyl, vinyl sounds better. If you mistreat the vinyl in any way, it becomes damaged and at that point, sure, some might say a CD sounds better. I personally prefer the sound of vinyl...the crackle of the dust that settles on vinyl thats super old gives the music a raw texture that I just enjoy. Nothing wrong with that.

    But from my personal experience, vinyl does not "wear out". My dad has a copy of "Dark Side of the Moon", originally purchased in the 70s, that he played all the time throughout the years. He kept it in pristine condition because it was so precious to him, and I listen to it all the time even now, handling it very carefully- and the audio quality is literally still perfect.
  7. Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:[..]

    Nope, I've only ever purchased two albums on vinyl.

    But...

    Read/try to understand this

    What you've said is exactly what I was talking about...forming your own opinions while listening to the different formats is one thing, and that's fine if it makes you feel better- but there is a literal, scientific reason why vinyl actually sounds better than a CD.


    The article is clearly written by a vinyl audiophile.To say that that vinyl "there's no information lost" is bullshit. How can it have no information lost when Vinyls are all distorted. Vinyl is more distorted (the noise/static) than CD. A brand new vinyl is more distorted than a brand new CD (But not most CD's from the last couple of years, they're probably worse than vinyl ) This is NOT an opinion, THIS IS A FACT. I've listened to some vinyls and the CD versions sounded much better.

    Although, I'm happy that they mentioned that vinyl records degrade.
  8. Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:[..]

    At the moment you purchase a CD, and the exact same moment you purchase vinyl, vinyl sounds better. If you mistreat the vinyl in any way, it becomes damaged and at that point, sure, some might say a CD sounds better.



    Only some CD's from in the last decade or so sound worse than vinyl. The rest are in greater quality. If you say that a CD from, say 1991 is in inferior quality to vinyl and only sounds better if you damage the vinyl somehow - you're talking bullshit.



    Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3
    I personally prefer the sound of vinyl...the crackle of the dust that settles on vinyl thats super old gives the music a raw texture that I just enjoy. Nothing wrong with that.



    So you like your music distorted and the way the musicians didn't want you to hear it? That "raw texture" you enjoy and that "crackle of dust" is distortion and it's not the how the music was intended to be heard.
  9. Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:[..]

    But from my personal experience, vinyl does not "wear out". My dad has a copy of "Dark Side of the Moon", originally purchased in the 70s, that he played all the time throughout the years. He kept it in pristine condition because it was so precious to him, and I listen to it all the time even now, handling it very carefully- and the audio quality is literally still perfect.


    Your father's copy of Dark Side Of The Moon hasn't worn out as much as it could have because he probably didn't play it very often, I'm guessing. If you listen to it all the time, the quality is getting worse but you're just not noticing it.
  10. Anyway. How many of the Wide Awake In Europe 7" Vinyls were damaged? There seems to be quite a few.
  11. Alright, I'm done with you, let the rest of the members have their way. There's science and technology behind why they sound better, if you don't agree then you don't agree, but don't tell me I'm talking bullshit because you're too ignorant to suspend your own radical beliefs.
  12. Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:Alright, I'm done with you, let the rest of the members have their way. There's science and technology behind why they sound better, if you don't agree then you don't agree, but don't tell me I'm talking bullshit because you're too ignorant to suspend your own radical beliefs.


    It is not "radical beliefs". It is not "forming my own opinions". It is not a "scientific fact" that vinyl sounds better.

    All vinyls are distorted is not a radical belief, it is a fact. You can hear that in every vinyl. That's not being too ignorant. That's telling the truth. No offense but you possibly have hearing problems and that's why you won't admit to these facts. That would explain it when you say that vinyl "doesn't wear out" Or maybe noticed these facts but you're possibly too stubborn to admit you're wrong.

    And read this properly this time:

    Only some CD's from in the last decade or so sound worse than vinyl. The rest are in greater quality. If you say that a CD from, say 1991 is in inferior quality to vinyl and only sounds better if you damage the vinyl somehow - you're talking bullshit.


    I didn't say you're talking bullshit there. I said that if you think that an older CD is worse quality then any vinyl you would be talking bullshit. Just follow my advice and listen to Pink Floyd on vinyl first then listen to it on CD. And if you come back (although you probably won't now, after making such a comment) and say that the vinyl sounds so much better then you would be talking bullshit.

    Vinyl is in worse quality - Not a "radicial belief"
    Vinyl wears out - Not a "radicial belief"
    Brand new vinyl worse than brand new CD - Not a "radicial belief"

    And if you're father really did listen to that Pink Floyd record all the time since the 70's, it would most definiately wouldn't sound perfect. I'm sorry, but it seems to be you who has the radical beliefs

    Vinyl doesn't wear out - A radicial belief

    I've got a program that has a vinyl effect thing. Every time you moved it got slightly worse in quality, If you moved it in big chunks it would sound terrible. It would get worse if you moved it more to the left, ending up with unlistenable noise. This may not be real vinyl, but the people who made that program obviously studied how vinyls sound and how they sound through the years. This proves that vinyl does wear out.

    Brand new vinyl better than brand new CD - A radicial belief
    CD only sounds better if you damage the vinyl - A radicial belief
    Vinyl is in higher quality - A radicial belief

    Just stop being stubborn. I've given you real facts just there and in the previous posts.
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