1. I also love the New Mix of Gone, it kicks ass. But I think that almost every song in Pop is perfect like it is. Overproducting can bring some great things (Zooropa album is heavily produced, lots of layers, doubled parts, etc) but also some serious crap (How To Dismantle is the perfect example)... so I'm very happy with how Pop was, eventually. The thing I really can't be fond of is the tour.
  2. Originally posted by RUMMY:[..]

    I STILL love them. Although their work is not as good as it was in the 1990's, it's not all that bad - just comparatively TO THEIR OWN WORK not as good.


    Very well said, man. That's all.
  3. Originally posted by RUMMY:[..]

    I STILL love them. Although their work is not as good as it was in the 1990's, it's not all that bad - just comparatively TO THEIR OWN WORK not as good.


    Excellent point but barring a miracle, it never will be as good as it was then. The early nineties were a glorious time for the band - probably the zenith in terms of creative output.

    The tunes may not be of the quality they were then but they continue to deliver something exceptional to their fans. I mean I could never envisaged anything as grand as 360 coming along after the stripped down productions of Elevation and Vertigo tours so in that context, they still blow my mind.

    I'm comfortable that those days were the peak and it doesn't pain me to say that i don't think that they'll reach those heights again. I'm just thankful that my band had an era of unadulterated genius and that they continue to wow me 20 years later.


  4. I'm not saying I don't still love them, I do.
    I'm saying they are not that band anymore, and they're not.

    However, little flashes of light and rays of hope appear inside those rare moments of spasm and randomness. Zooropa for instance.
  5. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
    I also love the New Mix of Gone, it kicks ass. But I think that almost every song in Pop is perfect like it is. Overproducting can bring some great things (Zooropa album is heavily produced, lots of layers, doubled parts, etc) but also some serious crap (How To Dismantle is the perfect example)... so I'm very happy with how Pop was, eventually. The thing I really can't be fond of is the tour.


    I disagree with you here man, I find that the songs took on a new identity separate from the album - under the Popmart arch.
  6. except Discotheque i prefer the Pop singles to the album version of the songs
  7. Originally posted by PEDRO67:[..]

    Excellent point but barring a miracle, it never will be as good as it was then. The early nineties were a glorious time for the band - probably the zenith in terms of creative output.


    no band can reach that highness .. neither U2
  8. Originally posted by ric:[..]

    yeah they initially had trouble playing the songs live but i was referring to the fact that the band weren't happy with the production of the album itself


    I've always wondered about that. If God Will Send His Angels is one of my favourite tracks from Pop. It would've kicked butt on the nightly setlist.

    The band couldn't pull off the song on opening night. And Bono and Edge did some weird, neutered varation of the song during subseqent shows before abandoning it completely.

    I never fully understood that.
  9. Just like Miami ...it was great to hear live but it disappeared from the set list ....
    The light show on this song was incredible i remember ...I think U2 where in a very difficult period ..there where lost in some way ..they didn't know really well where to go with there music because of all the dance music at that time ...bands like the prodigy and faithless went going on stream at that time ..so U2 wants to go in that stream ..i remember a part in the newspaper when pop arrived " U2 meets the prodigy" When i heard Pop for the first time i was at the world release party in Rotterdam ...They where playing the Album over and over again and it didn't do nothing with me like all the other albums did. When they played Holy Joe during the concert announcement i thought
    wow this Rocks because this number is so different of the rest of pop. When the tour arrived the didn't really know how to play the new songs very well so U2 went very negative in the news and the news papers all over the world ...for me it was a great show i loved it but it missed something it was to huge ...the screen was to big for me you could not see the band very well ...the stage disorder your view on the band but for me the show rocks on in my Memory being in front of the lemon with Bono one and a half meter in front of me ( my wife touched him ) knot his shoelaces and than run further ...great memory .....
  10. apart from anything one of the coolest press conference for a tour presentation