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  1. Bir Ghanem could very well be the town that decides the outcome in Libya, at least if they take Surman. The battle of Tripoli will begin soon I'd predict.
  2. Originally posted by Hoosier2012:From the way things look, I wouldn't be surprised at all. The Dow Jones just dropped 634 damn points. If I'm an American, can I bring up the "Americans are stupid" diatribe? At least the ones we've elected to run the country. Obama is inept. The Republicans are crazy. I don't see this getting better anytime soon. Obama just came out today and basically said that no matter what S&P says, America will be a AAA rated country. Bullshit. We suck. We don't deal with bad news- we hide it, and that's going to be our downfall unless we get our heads out of our collective asses. I used to be one of those people that would say that America is the best country in the world, hands down...but I'm quickly losing faith in this country. I'm a Christian conservative...but most of the people who would also fall into that category are batshit insane. Michelle Bachmann? Really? If she gets anywhere near the White House, someone just needs to blow the damned capital up.

    /angrypost


    i got no issues with Bachman. Better her than the large eared one.
  3. Originally posted by U2fan:This whole debt deal was fabricated by the Teapublicans since the controversial Ryan "destroy Medicare" budget didn't work out. These people need to be voted out of office in 2012 so we can become a progressive nation once more.


    Yep, blame the Tea Party. You do realize they only control the house. Your commie friends still control the senate. Hell, if they haden't kicked ass last November, we woulnd't even be having this arguement.
  4. Originally posted by Macphistfly:[..]

    What a humorous statement. I find it hilarious that there are some people out there who think cutting spending and capping the debt is the path to madness.
    There is no money in the coiffeurs for your precious Progressivist growth of Government.


    +1.
  5. Originally posted by Doc32:[..]

    Ya the debt was clearly fabricated by Republicans. It obviously didn't exist before this year. Clearly the soluotion is to spend more so we can be "progressive." Well reasoned statement.


    +1.
  7. ...and not just because I've met the guy.
  8. Originally posted by Andrew_C:Its been getting a lot of coverage over here. Sounds as though it all started from a peacefull demonstration by family members in Tottenham, then other mugs rocked up and thats when the trouble started. Some of the people rioting are only kids, wtf are their parents doing?


    Originally posted by Yogi:Pictures that can be seen on media are really sad. One of my biggest wishes is to visit London one day because many people told me it's the best city in the world. And now it's in the flames.


    It's an amazing city, but for the last few days it looks like the set of V for Vendetta has come true, only without the political will for change. Most of the rioters are kids, it's just sad. The result of years of non-investment in engaging the youth of society and a neglect of those that need the help most to get themselves back on their feet. That and the growth of a social attitude that puts rights over responsibilities and you've got a beautiful recipe for trouble. Hindsight is beautiful, but it's the only thing we have now. God only knows how long it will last. My fear is that once the troubles stop (if they ever do), people will think that's that, and ignore the underlying issues, i.e. this rot in the fabric of society. We need more public, social and political engagement, for people to care about what happens, and to understand what happens - it clearly isn't occurring to those causing the unrest that everything they do just damages their own community even more. Looting local shops, businesses etc. just kills their own local economies, things that will take years to get back together again. And what will happen? More fucking cuts to pay for the damage caused, and absolutely no reinvestment or any attempt to give the economy any kind of CPR.

    Every day passes and I get sadder for the world we live in. The troubles in the Arab world, the shootings in Norway, the global economy eternally going down the shitter (and the only ultimate solution that I can being impossible to put into practise), the rioting here - the only feeling I have is of sadness. The anger was there, but now I'm just sad. Like millions around the world, I want to change the world for the better, but how? How can we do anything positive when there's no sense of unity to progress?

    To quote The Killers, 'this is the world that we live, I feel myself get tired'. And to think I've only just turned 21.


  9. Well, she is one hell of a beauty;



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  10. The London riots are getting absolutely ridiculous, frankly they should have brought in the tear gas and water cannons already. People who behave like animals should be treated like animals.

    The other thing that annoys me is how the media makes absolutely no mention of how 95% of the rioters are black. It's political correctness gone mad.
  11. Originally posted by vanquish:The London riots are getting absolutely ridiculous, frankly they should have brought in the tear gas and water cannons already. People who behave like animals should be treated like animals.

    The other thing that annoys me is how the media makes absolutely no mention of how 95% of the rioters are black. It's political correctness gone mad.

    It would seem that the police are started to return order without the use of such methods. The streets of London are quiet tonight, most of the trouble seems to be happening in Manchester, Birmingham etc. on a much smaller scale. Tear gas and water cannons generally get used with large masses of people, this isn't a large scale protest a la Brixton in the '70s, this is small bands of looters which don't warrant it. And the fact that there's a large amount of black youths involved is neither here nor there. This isn't about race, it's not a political protest, there isn't any kind of cause uniting those involved.

    It's the inevitable conclusion of a lack of investment in the future of this country, especially for those in poor areas with no opportunity or hope who have been left to feel disenchanted and neglected, not to mention a lack of willingness by the state to actively engage and encourage young people to take an active interest in their own community and society, be it socially, politically and economically. Youth workers and action groups have been saying for months that something like this was on the cards because of cuts being made to their funding and the schemes they were involved with. I'm not condoning any of it, but there needs to be a united attempt to understand why this has happened, and to take active and progressive steps to stop the rot, but from the sounds of it, that's not going to happen because a lot of people seem to think it's clearcut, i.e. once the rioting has stopped, the problem's resolved.
  12. Guy from Birmingham (huge U2 fan, went to 40 concerts this tour) just said on Facebook that protesters started shooting at police.
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