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  1. To be honest, this is my biggest beef with this video. He kind of comes across with this attitude of "my lyrical changes are brilliant and for the best" when in fact, they sound like a bad Valentine's Day card.
  2. I'm wondering if he forgot the lyrics and he is making them up as he goes... wouldn't surprise me! haha
  3. I suppose it does seem a bit ridiculous to be complaining about Bono being Bono and he is performing for Guggenheim's camera and not just by himself, but it just comes across as a little forced and uncomfortable viewing.

    if they were going to go the acoustic route, I think the performance would have benefited from a piano accompaniment from the edge and bono without guitar... and maybe some acoustic bass, ah what the hell, some percussion too. An acoustic group performance. now that would be better.
  4. Originally posted by haytrain[..]

    To be honest, this is my biggest beef with this video. He kind of comes across with this attitude of "my lyrical changes are brilliant and for the best" when in fact, they sound like a bad Valentine's Day card.


    Yeah maybe a bit, unless Kris is right and he just forgot them, but seeing how Dallas was able to pull up the lyrics for Wild Horses for Bono in From The Sky Down (watch the scene) I'm sure they were available to him, so yeah, he probably changed them on purpose.

    How does "in love and war there are on rules" benefit the song at ALL? Since when is the song about war and all that jazz that Bono sang about in 1983? He's taking a song that was meant to get AWAY from the old U2 (not So Cruel alone, but you know what I mean) and putting a spin on it that shouldn't be there. I'm SO against that idea of "songs being unfinished". Songs ARE finished, they're a staple of a certain time in a band's career, or any artist's career, and I don't think they're living organisms (as Bono puts it) at all. They were written at a certain time, for a certain time, and they shouldn't be meddled with...The Tragically Hip still performs New Orleans Is Sinking after Hurricane Katrina, and THAT'S saying something. Bono needs to understand that there was a reason they left it as is when they recorded it, and changing it now isn't going to make it better, especially when everyone fell in love with the original decades ago. It's like when teachers tell you that when you're doing a multiple choice test and you pick an answer but you feel like it might be another, stick with the first one you picked, because chances are it's the correct one.
  5. I suppose I agree with what you're saying, although the line he adds doesn't have to do with war, I don't think. It seems to me he's referring to the saying "all's fair in love and war" in terms of a relationship.
  6. Originally posted by shkee23I suppose I agree with what you're saying, although the line he adds doesn't have to do with war, I don't think. It seems to me he's referring to the saying "all's fair in love and war" in terms of a relationship.


    Yeah that could be true too, but even then it's still not better than the original. It adds a different dimension when the lyric is "you say in love, there are no rules" because it's conversational, as opposed to "in love in war, there are no rules" which could be a thought derived by a single person. Maybe i"m looking too far into it. Either way, 100% of the time I like Bono's original lyrics better when he changes them

    Another example is when they've recently performed Bad, instead of saying "And so to fade away" he says "and so not, fade away". Questionable at best.
  7. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

    Yeah maybe a bit, unless Kris is right and he just forgot them, but seeing how Dallas was able to pull up the lyrics for Wild Horses for Bono in From The Sky Down (watch the scene) I'm sure they were available to him, so yeah, he probably changed them on purpose.

    How does "in love and war there are on rules" benefit the song at ALL? Since when is the song about war and all that jazz that Bono sang about in 1983? He's taking a song that was meant to get AWAY from the old U2 (not So Cruel alone, but you know what I mean) and putting a spin on it that shouldn't be there. I'm SO against that idea of "songs being unfinished". Songs ARE finished, they're a staple of a certain time in a band's career, or any artist's career, and I don't think they're living organisms (as Bono puts it) at all. They were written at a certain time, for a certain time, and they shouldn't be meddled with...The Tragically Hip still performs New Orleans Is Sinking after Hurricane Katrina, and THAT'S saying something. Bono needs to understand that there was a reason they left it as is when they recorded it, and changing it now isn't going to make it better, especially when everyone fell in love with the original decades ago. It's like when teachers tell you that when you're doing a multiple choice test and you pick an answer but you feel like it might be another, stick with the first one you picked, because chances are it's the correct one.


    A "Hip" reference. Oh, my. You are indeed from Canada.

    As for this whole "So Cruel" thing, if you don't like how Bono interacts with the camera, simple rip the audio and (try to) enjoy how it sounds. Nothing wrong with an additional version - even if the original is far superior.

    And while were at it, how come they can never get that funky guitar in the studio version of "Stay" to translate to the stage?

  8. Originally posted by EDDMB: So,let me get this straight.This version on Bluray(that is,of course, now being released separately,after we all bought AB mega ultra super deluxe box sets) of From The Sky Down,is different from the version I bought/have in the AB set ? Is this the full version, that I saw on Showtime ? LIB is cut from my AB version right ? SC wasnt on either the Showtime aired version or the AB version either right ?? Its on this version ??? Should I run out and buy this version now as well ?? LOL

    WTF ?!?! ...why are there so many versions of this film ? And where the hell is Acrobat !!....LOL

    Why not just release a deluxe DVD,with tons and tons of extras,as PJ did with PJ20 ????


    Well, I can imagine a quote from our buddy, Ca$h McCashess.....

    "If you release a Box Set with a previously released DVD(Sydney), and then include a new documentary, and make sure to edit it, and then release said DVD on its own with more content, you stand to make quite a bit of money..."

    No he didn't really say that...but probably did privately.
  9. Originally posted by pleasegone:[..]

    Well, I can imagine a quote from our buddy, Ca$h McCashess.....

    "If you release a Box Set with a previously released DVD(Sydney), and then include a new documentary, and make sure to edit it, and then release said DVD on its own with more content, you stand to make quite a bit of money..."

    No he didn't really say that...but probably did privately.


    sad but true.
  10. Originally posted by RUMMY:[..]

    A "Hip" reference. Oh, my. You are indeed from Canada.

    As for this whole "So Cruel" thing, if you don't like how Bono interacts with the camera, simple rip the audio and (try to) enjoy how it sounds. Nothing wrong with an additional version - even if the original is far superior.

    And while were at it, how come they can never get that funky guitar in the studio version of "Stay" to translate to the stage?




    I agree.I would also love a "full band" version of Stay.The acoustic version of Stay has been played now since 2001...
  11. Originally posted by RUMMY[..]

    A "Hip" reference. Oh, my. You are indeed from Canada.

    As for this whole "So Cruel" thing, if you don't like how Bono interacts with the camera, simple rip the audio and (try to) enjoy how it sounds. Nothing wrong with an additional version - even if the original is far superior.

    And while were at it, how come they can never get that funky guitar in the studio version of "Stay" to translate to the stage?




    RIghtly recognized!

    I don't mind with the way it's shot at all! That was one of the things I said was kind of silly to judge on, seeing as how it was probably Davis who asked him to do what he did.

    And I've always wondered that myself. I'm guessing that they figured Stay always worked better in a "busker" version in a live setting (which I disagree with) so I guess Edge never bothered to attempt it live, it was always acoustic. As for why the band has never gone back to the full-band version, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER STORY. I've never come up with a good reason for that one...maybe to give Adam and Larry a break? If anyone needs a break wouldn't it be Bono though? (Things To Make And Do comes to mind) I've always loved the version they play on the Sydney dvd. So much better in my opinion.

  12. Hey...I like Tragically Hip.....

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