1. Originally posted by RUMMY:I think PJ might be at a point in their career/lives where a full-scale tour may never happen again. They may rather just go "full out" for 15 to 20 shows instead of grinding it out for months at a time.



    "sad" but true looking back at the last 5(-6) years
    2009-10 are quite emblematic years .. when they were supposed to promote Backspacer
    4-5 shows in Europe and before the release of the album which came out in the middle of the US tour
    and 2010 almost the same.
    they're not much about promoting stuff but if they don't do a proper tour when they release a lbum ... when they should do?
  2. Originally posted by RUMMY:Don't you have all TEN 2011 Canadian tour shows, Ronnie? And three Brazilian ones? You must sort of enjoy them, no? It's cheaper anyway.


    hehehe for the finances it's better for sure
    i enjoy enjoy them
  3. Originally posted by clover68:[..]

    "sad" but true looking back at the last 5(-6) years
    2009-10 are quite emblematic years .. when they were supposed to promote Backspacer
    4-5 shows in Europe and before the release of the album which came out in the middle of the US tour
    and 2010 almost the same.
    they're not much about promoting stuff but if they don't do a proper tour when they release a lbum ... when they should do?


    Thats what Im saying.It looks as if we will not get that full on,proper,tour anymore.
  4. Matt..Pt 2 of my 2000 European Tour set....

    1) Sometimes - Berlin 06.25..I love this gig,31 songs...great opener...MUST HAVE
    2) Corduroy - Milan 06.22 the great Milan show...crowd and band are on fire..byond a MUST HAVE gig..one of the bands best ever...
    3) Grievance - Milan 06.22....solid rockin version
    4) Of The Girl - Katowice 06.16 N2 the infamous second night in Katowice.This was a last min show,as the band were supposed to play in Buddapest,but the show was cancelled.The band played a 2nd gig in Katowice to only a few thousand fans.The band had no setlist,and EV was calling songs out to the band after.A fantastic gig,MUST HAVE..
    5) Animal - Milan 06.22
    6) Brain Of J - Katowice 06.15 N1 very good gig,but even close to N2 IMO....
    7) State Of Love And Trust - Salzburg 06.18 very good show,solid version here...
    8) Small Town - Milan 06.22 crowd is amazing..my favorite version hands down
    9) Hail Hail - Katowice 06.16
    10) Daughter (ABITW/WMA) - Salzburg 06.18 really good version
    11) Lukin > - Salzburg 06.18 great versions of these 2 classics
    12) Not For You - Salzburg 06.18
    13) Spin The Black Circle - Ljubljana good gig,solid version
    14) Present Tense - Milan 06.22 the BEST VERSION...period...
    15) Thin Air - Katowice 06.15
    16) I Got Id - Katowice 06.16
    17) Improv/Free At Last - Berlin 06.25 strange tune,not bad as the intro for Habit....
    18) Habit - Berlin 06.25 great version
    19) Insignificance - Ljubjana 06.19
    20) Porch - Hamburg 06.26 great version,MUS HAVE gig....
    21) Black - Hamburg 06.26 my fav PJ tune,Mike goes wild here....
    22) Jeremy - Milan 06.22 the classic,the Italians do it justice...great version...
    23) Immortality - Verona 06.20 maybe the best version out there of this tune,MUST HAVE gig
    24) In Hiding - Katowice 06.16 great version
    25) Last Exit - Oslo 06.29 very very good show...
    26) Nothingman - Milan 06.22 the BEST version of this classic..again,the Italians are amazing here...I remember looking around me in awe as these crowd of people sang this one...loved it...chills....
    27) RVM - Berlin 06.25 great version....

    Encore 1

    28) Crazy Mary - Hamburg 06.26 the 2000 debut of this live staple...
    29) In The Colosseum Verona 06.20 cool short tune...
    30) I Got You -Verona 06.20 the cover,very fun version
    31) Sleight Of Hand Olso 06.29 my favorite version of this tune...
    32) Garden - Stockholm 06.28 great version...solid gig
    33) Smile - Katowice 06.16 good version...

    Encore 2


    34) Leatherman - Zurich 06.23 decent gig
    35) Leaving Here - Katowice 06.16 good tune,fits well
    36 ) Soldier Of Love - Katowice 06.16 a fun cover,at this wild gig........
    37) Baba O'Reily - Hamburg 06.26 Germans go wild on this one...
    38) Soon Forget Zurich 06.23
    39) Indifference - Ljubljana 06.19 great,creepy version,crowd sing along very well as it fades..
    40) RITFW Oslo 06.29 fantastic rockin version

    3 hrs...a solid mix of PJs gigs in Europe.Katowice 2,Milan,Verona,Berlin and Hamburg are must haves IMO.Salzburg is close,and for me it is a personal favorite,as I have visited that country many times,and love it.......for me,its a must have...grab it after listening to the 5 aforementioned shows...


  5. ^I'll use your suggestions to make a single three-CD collection (for now), then listen to all the gigs in their entirity (a few times each), and THEN go bigger.

  6. Ed' Europe 2000 "MUST HAVE" tracker:
    San Sebastian
    Praha
    London N2
    Berlin
    Hamburg
    Milan
    Verona
    Katowice N2

    (only 8?)


  7. Well.. Cardiff (06.06) Salzburg (06.18) and Oslo (06.29) are also top gigs.Listen to the top 8 from Europe,then those 3.Cardiff is the best of those 3,IMO,followed by Salzburg.I don't want you or anyone else to OD on all the gigs.You are over a decade behind Matt....lol
  8. Well I already have a problem that I am not trying to cure so an overdose is inevitable.
  9. LOL..ok then,just pace yourself Matt....
  10. For the last 10 days or so,I have been listening to the 1st leg,of the 2003 North American Tour.There are some really great shows from this leg.Its hard to know what shows to listen to,since there are so many released gigs to choose from.I have listened to basically every show the band have released since 2000.This took some time,but I have been a slightly over the top fan since the bands inception,so it really wasnt too hard to do.


    The first 2 that come to mind are Raleigh NC 04.15.03 and Charlotte NC 04.16.03.These 2 are above average,and the band are on fire.

    Another very popular show from that week,Atlanta,GA 04.19.03.Crown Of Thorns is performed,with Brendan O'Brien on keys.

    There are 5 classic standout MUST HAVE shows in April, after Atlanta.St Louis 04.22,Champaign 04.23,Pittsburgh 04.26,Philly 04.28 and Nassau 04.30.The Nassau gig had the infamous near riot,after EV came out wearing the Bush mask.I was at this great show,and it was not pretty,and I will leave it at that.......

    After the Nassau fiasco,the band played another 2 MUST HAVE stunning shows in Buffalo NY 05.02.03 (3CDs) and Penn State PA 05.03.03 (3CDs).Both shows are very long,but fantastic.Penn ST was released commercially.
  11. You two OWN this topic, it's astounding
  12. It just show that Matt,Ronnie and I are absolutely mental for PJ...LOL