1. Maybe, the reason does not really mind. But he was aweful, and Van Bommel as well. Still not sure why Van Marwijk wants to play with criminal Nigel De Jong as well. Its just too conservative for my taste.

    Guess Robben saved us yesterday, again. But its hardly a team effort like this.
  2. i think that friendly matches at this point of the season are useful just for newbie in the team .. players who have to gain a place for the european championship list
    who is sure to be there is only worried not to get injured.
    there are some few exceptions though
  3. Yeah well we didnt have any newbies, I am quite glad for these friendly matches as it shows that there is a lot to be done.
  4. you won at Wembley right? there should have been something good for sure
    what should Tim say then?
  5. I don't know, but I dont think he sees England like this as a real contestant for the title when they played like yesterday.

    The Dutch players said out loud that only winning the cup will do this time, so they can expect criticism when they are not even close to their top performance
  6. Is De Jong still playing? I thought he was being judged in the The Hague International Criminal Court
  7. solid speech
    real contenders are Spain and Holland .. but my prediction goes to Germany for the title, despite of the yesterday result
  8. Spain and Germany will play the final again, I reckon. If Spain doesn't fall against England or Holland first...
  9. Germany is my prediction as well. They play solid football, and I like their attitude better than the attitude of Spain. Germany plays the game as it should be, creative, attacking fast. And they dont screw the opponent by falling too much and asking for cards etc.

    Spain is the obvious favourite, their team is the most experienced. Since they play in the same formation week in week out, minus Messi
  10. Originally posted by Risto:Germany is my prediction as well. They play solid football, and I like their attitude better than the attitude of Spain. Germany plays the game as it should be, creative, attacking fast. And they dont screw the opponent by falling too much and asking for cards etc.

    Spain is the obvious favourite, their team is the most experienced. Since they play in the same formation week in week out, minus Messi

    haha i see what you did there


  11. The 4th goal is great.