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  1. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    I guess the VVD will shrink next elections to twenty seats. Either CDA or PvdA will be the biggest party, unless Wilders will get the VVD votes.


    Don't think so, I hope people will see that with the election results this was the only option. I voted VVD myself and I can't stand those left creeps of PvdA but this is probably the best for the country right now.


  2. In my experience how biased anyone considers something is based on how much they agree with it.

  3. Okay, fine. Insufficient evidence. Case closed.
  4. How often have you accused a source you agreed with of being biased?
  5. Originally posted by bartajax:[..]


    Don't think so, I hope people will see that with the election results this was the only option. I voted VVD myself and I can't stand those left creeps of PvdA but this is probably the best for the country right now.

    I agree, it was the only option. I do not oppose against Rutte-Verhagen or Rutte-Asscher.

    As a current student, I will keep my 'stufi' and I won't get a 'long studying bill'. In fact, if the amount of students decreases, my salary may increase later on. Moreover, none of my tax will go to students later on.

    Then the 'zorgpremie': as I am not making more than 20.000 euros a year, I will only have to pay 255 euros. I do understand why the rich VVD voters do oppose against the bill.

    Finally, I believe the 'hypotheekrenteaftrek' will stay the same if you do not make more than 70.000 a year and even then you will only pay half of a percent more. No problem.

    It is a good thing the government spends less money. It makes sure I will get my AOW later om.

  6. This raises a question: do you consider anything in that source as biased?

    And yes, I notice some flaws in some sources I agree with. If you actually read it and consider the evidence then you might notice flaws. You can still agree with it, though.
  7. We agree for once.
  8. The US needs less biased news. It does so badly. Here is where public service can play a important role, like it does in Sweden. Not saying it's a complete guarantee, but for example today's show about the US election felt pretty damn unbiased. Letting both sides speak, the host and the show itself not casting judgement. Maybe it could've been a hit in the US.
  9. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    I agree, it was the only option. I do not oppose against Rutte-Verhagen or Rutte-Asscher.

    As a current student, I will keep my 'stufi' and I won't get a 'long studying bill'. In fact, if the amount of students decreases, my salary may increase later on. Moreover, none of my tax will go to students later on.

    Then the 'zorgpremie': as I am not making more than 20.000 euros a year, I will only have to pay 255 euros. I do understand why the rich VVD voters do oppose against the bill.

    Finally, I believe the 'hypotheekrenteaftrek' will stay the same if you do not make more than 70.000 a year and even then you will only pay half of a percent more. No problem.

    It is a good thing the government spends less money. It makes sure I will get my AOW later om.

    Well I am also lucky because I wont lose my stufi. But it doesnt make it fair to new students.

    Also the CBP has confirmed that our AOW (pension) might end up 20 % lower than current standards. Also some people have 30% less to spend every month.

    Dont see why we need to save 17 bln the hard way while we sent 40 bln in a nice package to Greece. And we will do it again, since rumor has it that a new package will be on its way.
  10. Originally posted by Risto:[..]

    Well I am also lucky because I wont lose my stufi. But it doesnt make it fair to new students.

    Also the CBP has confirmed that our AOW (pension) might end up 20 % lower than current standards. Also some people have 30% less to spend every month.

    Dont see why we need to save 17 bln the hard way while we sent 40 bln in a nice package to Greece. And we will do it again, since rumor has it that a new package will be on its way.

    Greece will keep getting nice packages for ages because no one would admit that financially EU is falling apart. Not just EU but whole western world. Everybody is in debt and it's impossible to reduce it because we're going from one crisis to another. The way I see it, the system doesn't work.

    No, I'm wrong. Certain people gain from crisis and as long as that happens, crisis we experience in last few years will never end. System does work, just not the way it should be and not the way it should work - for ordinary people.
  11. The system works as long as we believe it works. If we all demand our money right now, banks will only be able to pay 20% of it.

    In Holland something like that happened when an economic 'specialist' told DSB Bank wasn't solid anymore on television. Everyone wanted their money, making the bank collapse.
  12. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:The US needs less biased news. It does so badly. Here is where public service can play a important role, like it does in Sweden. Not saying it's a complete guarantee, but for example today's show about the US election felt pretty damn unbiased. Letting both sides speak, the host and the show itself not casting judgement. Maybe it could've been a hit in the US.

    Yes, we should most definantly go with the guys who run with every dubious statement, made by every obscure conservative, while giving the left a pass.

    Who watches the watchmen?
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