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  1. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    I couldn't agree more. I love watching politics and watching a skilled politician is great, no matter Dem or Rep. It's just like football, you love watching it, even if the player is one of the opponents.

    I think Clinton would be a great choice for the Democrats, as women will love her. And remember, more than 50% of the population is female...

    Left wing women love her, and the democratic party will get them regardless of who runs.

  2. Had her chance. The party fucked her over in favor of Obama.
  3. Funny thing to hear you say.

    The problem is that you don't see the problem. When we try to take a neutral viewpoint and argue how the Republicans might win the next elections, the first thing you do is defend the Republicans. You act like Romney's team ran a perfect race which is obviously not the case.

  4. So did the Republican party in 1976 with your friend Reagan, remember?

  5. Reagan is probably the president that had the easiest race. His opponent, Carter, was disliked by the American people because of his Afghan policy.

    Let me give you three examples of moderate parties that won recent Dutch elections:
    2002-2010: Center party CDA is reigning during polarisation
    2010: Right-wing VVD becomes the biggest party for the first time in history because of the most socialistic approach ever
    2012: Left-wing PvdA scored 15 seats in the polls and two weeks later 40 seats on Election Day after party leader Samson moves to the center, beating the extreme socialistic SP (who fell from 30 to 15 seats in two weeks). Our parliament has 150 seats.
  6. Originally posted by fabian:[..]
    Funny thing to hear you say.

    The problem is that you don't see the problem. When we try to take a neutral viewpoint and argue how the Republicans might win the next elections, the first thing you do is defend the Republicans. You act like Romney's team ran a perfect race which is obviously not the case.

    There is no such thing as a perfect race.

  7. I fail to see what this has to do with anything.
  8. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    Reagan is probably the president that had the easiest race. His opponent, Carter, was disliked by the American people because of his Afghan policy.

    Let me give you three examples of moderate parties that won recent Dutch elections:
    2002-2010: Center party CDA is reigning during polarisation
    2010: Right-wing VVD becomes the biggest party for the first time in history because of the most socialistic approach ever
    2012: Left-wing PvdA scored 15 seats in the polls and two weeks later 40 seats on Election Day after party leader Samson moves to the center, beating the extreme socialistic SP (who fell from 30 to 15 seats in two weeks). Our parliament has 150 seats.

    No one cared about Carter's Afghan policy. It was Iran that killed him.


    And there is a very big diffrence is political culture between my country and yours.

  9. You said Hillary had her chance, but the party went with Obama. Reagan lost in 1976 the pre-elections, but won all states but six plus DC in the 1980 presidental elections. Losing a pre-election doesn't mean you are lost.
  11. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    You said Hillary had her chance, but the party went with Obama. Reagan lost in 1976 the pre-elections, but won all states but six plus DC in the 1980 presidental elections. Losing a pre-election doesn't mean you are lost.

    Reagan wasen't screwed over by his party, and the medias love afair.

  12. Of course he did. Guess what: So did Obama. Its all a matter of timing, and whose side the media is on.
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