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Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:I'm not a genius by any means.

Originally posted by fabian:[..]

You've just shown that once again.

I noticed that the President of the World Bank Jim Wolfhenson came out on Sept 12 or maybe Sept 13 and said you know the roots of this problem are in abject poverty, fanatics live off (this) - their fuel, fuel for their fanaticism is the abject poverty that they live in, so I put a challenge to us that perhaps the only way to really win this war, really win it, is to try and take away that poverty, that's my prayer.

Third world working conditions drive people right into crime. Have some scientific proof, those videos will be boring over time.

Originally posted by fabian:And while you were bashing the working class, I used my time and looked for some statistics...

If union membership is required for a job, why is the trade union density (= union members / workers) not higher than twelve per cent in the United States?

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

Because working conditions in Indiana and North Carolina are definantly third-world.

It never fails. When a lib cant think of anything else they will resort to insulting their foes intelect. I have the clarity to admit I'm not a genius. That does not mean I'm dumb. On the contrary, I'm widely regarded as being quite bright by those who actually know me.

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:Lets review for a minute. I never said, membership is required for all jobs. For certain professions in some areas though it is almost impossible to get the job without joining a union.

Given that I'm a member of the working class, I find it hilarious you accuse me of bashing it. This is really quite simple. I work to get paid. Not the other way around.

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:I make no false pretenses about knowing your political beliefs, because I don't care. I assure you I'm not a bitter man. My hatred of union runs very deep on account of one little fact. The UAW tried to kill my father in 1998 because he went against them on some issue (don't remember what), so once again, quit assuming you actually know anything about me.

To apply your father's experience - and I would have no trouble remembering why someone tried to kill my father, but there you go - to everyone in regard to joining a union is just ridiculous. The entire union tried to kill him, eh? Not a few people, or a couple of people - the entirety of the union and its membership? Utter nonsense. By your reasoning, if you were mugged by a black man, you'd hold all black people responsible, now and forever. Aaron, I and everyone else on this website, know plenty about you or, at least, the persona you adopt while on this site. Endlessly aggressive and combative, unable to approach any subject from more than one direction. If I know nothing about you, then, what makes it possible for you to think that you know me well enough to call me an elitist pig? What makes me one?

And having good health insurance is the reward for making good choices in life. At this time, I feel I don't deserve it, as I have done nothing to earn that right.

Wow. What a remarkably fascistic statement. Nobody who has made bad choices deserves decent health insurance? Lovely sentiment, Aaron.

I work on my terms. I'll find a job at the time of

Originally posted by fabian:[..]

Let's review for a minute. I never said working conditions in Indiana and North Carolina are third world like. All I said was that bad conditions drive people into crime.

It was American sociologist Robert Merton who said that people who cannot reach their life goals the legal way will eventually do it the illegal way.

If you had a quick look at the pdf I presented you, you would have found a graph showing a correlation between low incomes and homicides. As far as I know unions make incomes higher. See where I am going?

Originally posted by fabian:[..]

You did say it more or less. Actually, you just did.

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In my mind the woking class consists of working people.