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Originally posted by LikeASong:Don't get your complexity point... That's what I was trying to say, the Elevation and Vertigo tours had outter rings too. . . .

I haven't seen Elevation or Vertigo live, but I think it would be way too big. Only the main stage, in the middle of the arena with two MX-like catwalks would seem far more interesting and 360-like.

ahn1991

12 years

Actually, another point that I just remembered (and was addressed in that documentary, Squaring The Circle) is the fact that indoor arenas are, for the most part, a North American phenomena. They mentioned that for Elevation and Vertigo, they essentially had to design two stages and two shows, one for the indoor arena gigs in NA and another for the outdoor gigs in Europe.

Now I don't think Europe got a ton of indoor arenas in the past few years, so wouldn't this still be an issue for them?

bartajax

12 years

Just to speak for Holland; There are some indoor arena's in The Netherlands but those aren't big enough for the normal U2 stages and don't allow as much people as at a normal U2 concert.

fabian

12 years

I remember other stage designs for the 360 Tour, which they might use. It just not U2 to use the same stage for two tours. They have always been innovative...

fabian

12 years

6.15 min is where you wanna be.

ahn1991

12 years

I feel like the next progression for them would be to make a true 360 show indoors, but this doesn't answer the Europe question...

Most of the alternate 360 stages from Squaring The Circle look too similar to The Claw to be used. Then again, The Claw worked so well I don't see why they wouldn't stick with that formula.

ahn1991

12 years

Also, in case you haven't watched Squaring The Circle, it's a very good documentary that's only a little over a half hour long. It provides great insight into why 360 looked like it did.

fabian

12 years

I love this one. It only needs the screen.

This is pretty much what I meant, Sergio. All sides are equal...

RattleandHum1988

12 years

Who knows if what that guy said is even true? And even if it is, if the tour is still at least a year away, who's to say they don't change their minds before then?

I'd assume what Edge meant is the stage (just being the small circle they stood on) and that's it, the rotating drum set and that's it. I doubt they'd bring back the bridges and the outer ring because then it would just look like 360 indoors, and on top of that it's a bit of a big setup to bring to small stadiums anyway. I can see them playing in the middle of an arena instead of one end of it though like bands tend to do.

ahn1991

12 years

One thing I do like a lot with indoor shows is that it's much easier to integrate the light show with the screens and monitors already there. The Chicago DVD is a pretty good example of that with the tech guys using the screens lining the stands to display Zoo Babies or ZooTV static or what not.

iTim

12 years

God, I hope it's not an arena tour...

fabian

12 years

Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:Who knows if what that guy said is even true? And even if it is, if the tour is still at least a year away, who's to say they don't change their minds before then?

I'd assume what Edge meant is the stage (just being the small circle they stood on) and that's it, the rotating drum set and that's it. I doubt they'd bring back the bridges and the outer ring because then it would just look like 360 indoors, and on top of that it's a bit of a big setup to bring to small stadiums anyway. I can see them playing in the middle of an arena instead of one end of it though like bands tend to do.

They cannot change their minds: they probably had this designed far before the release of No Line on the Horizon. That is probably why they didn't go with a smaller venue, which would have been more appropriate, in my opinion. So, if it's true now, only small changes can happen.

I think the fan is speaking the truth. The question is: does Edge?

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