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  1. Originally posted by RUMMY:Both shows in Italy, right? Anywhere else?

    (You posted a (very impressive) list of the shows you attended a long while back and I remember there being a few interesting (non-NYC) venues you attended.)

    I spent a lot of time in Europe that year.I saw PJ in Milan and London, Oasis in Wembley in July and Radiohead in Warrington in Oct, the release show for Kid A.I built up my miles on BA that year.

    We had only 1 child then,she was 6 and we pulled her out and spent 5 weeks in England from June - July 2000

    I flew in solo for the May London gigs of that year , went home and came back with my wife and daughter in mid June

    We also saw Oasis in Italy , I have to find the date.

    Not bad,all from my friend Chris who has just ridiculous connections as he works for the BBC.
  2. I was shocked at how different the English Oasis fans behaved , compared to the English Radiohead fans .

    The Oasis fans were all intox and disorderly on the floor at Wembley

    The Radiohead fans were all dressed like Paul Weller,like they just came from Carnaby street. All proper and in control , actually watching the band .
  3. Oasis and Radiohead just have two completely different fanbases. The stories I've heard from Oasis concerts are ridiculous - people getting cups of piss and various other liquids chucked over them, and people being so drunk and disorderly that they get thrown out the venue or can barely stand they are that intoxicated. Two of my friends saw Oasis around four years ago – a concert I still to this day regret for not going to – and they said there were people doing cocaine and ecstasy in the toilets. I think the funniest story about the concert I was told was that there was a guy outside Murrayfield so drunk that he never got into the concert so he said: "Selling my ticket for £3 and a bag chips." I would've taken that if I was ticketless...

    But yeah, you could say that Oasis is predominantly for the "working class" audience and that Radiohead is for the "middle-class", meaning that's why their audiences are so different. I suppose the attitude of Liam Gallagher didn't help – that sort of 'egged' the audience on a little to cause trouble.
  4. Originally posted by clover68:some rumors ... start in Pittsburgh or Dallas mid september .. other cities Boston, Charlotte, Los Angeles, Miami, Phoenix, Phiadelphia


    I guess they haven't been to Phoenix since 2003. They aren't to happy with Arizona these days.
  5. Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]

    I spent a lot of time in Europe that year.I saw PJ in Milan and London, Oasis in Wembley in July and Radiohead in Warrington in Oct, the release show for Kid A.I built up my miles on BA that year.

    We had only 1 child then,she was 6 and we pulled her out and spent 5 weeks in England from June - July 2000

    I flew in solo for the May London gigs of that year , went home and came back with my wife and daughter in mid June

    We also saw Oasis in Italy , I have to find the date.

    Not bad,all from my friend Chris who has just ridiculous connections as he works for the BBC.


    2000 was indeed a solid year for albums releases - at least for people like me who was (is) a fan of the great bands of the 1990's.
  6. I was reading somewhere about the longest PJ shows and that the 1996 Randall's Island and the 1995 Soldier Field shows were two of the longest ones.

    Damn, I hope they get those out of the vault - and soon.

    (2009 Philly 4, 2003 Mansfield 3, 2003 State College, and 2000 Seattle 2 were also mentioned.)
  7. Originally posted by KieranU2:Oasis and Radiohead just have two completely different fanbases. The stories I've heard from Oasis concerts are ridiculous - people getting cups of piss and various other liquids chucked over them, and people being so drunk and disorderly that they get thrown out the venue or can barely stand they are that intoxicated. Two of my friends saw Oasis around four years ago – a concert I still to this day regret for not going to – and they said there were people doing cocaine and ecstasy in the toilets. I think the funniest story about the concert I was told was that there was a guy outside Murrayfield so drunk that he never got into the concert so he said: "Selling my ticket for £3 and a bag chips." I would've taken that if I was ticketless...

    But yeah, you could say that Oasis is predominantly for the "working class" audience and that Radiohead is for the "middle-class", meaning that's why their audiences are so different. I suppose the attitude of Liam Gallagher didn't help – that sort of 'egged' the audience on a little to cause trouble.

    Yes,it was quite a show the Oasis "fans" were putting on. Most were amused that I was American, some not so.

    The English Radiohead fans are without question from middle to upper class , no question there. That was fine with me of course.
  8. In terms of energy, I definitely noticed that Oasis fans were more "upbeat" than Radiohead ones. That said, their songs are, for the most part, are meant to be sung along to while Radiohead's (aside from maybe Karma Police) are not.

    In my limited experience, Pearl Jam seems to fall somewhere in between those two bands.
  9. For YEARS I've always loved what I thought to be "Corduroy's" lyric, "everything has changed... absolutely nothing's changed" as I interpreted it to mean everything about the narrative has changed but nothing around him has (or vice versa) but I have just discovered (nearly two DECADES later) that the line is "Everything has chains... absolutely nothing's changed."

    Well, that's a bit of a bummer... and makes me look/feel a bit foolish.

    Ah, well. I've never been certain why the title of this amazing song was "Corduroy" anyway.
  10. I haven't read the lyrics for any Pearl Jam song that I've listened to and it's been a test (to say the least) deciphering them for some songs I refuse to look until I'm confident I know them. Then of course, I'll be wrong.
  11. ...now wait a sec...some other places say I was right all along (although the 10c site says I'm wrong - and you've just gotta trust that one, right?)

    Oh, whatever.
  12. Originally posted by iTim:I haven't read the lyrics for any Pearl Jam song that I've listened to and it's been a test (to say the least) deciphering them for some songs I refuse to look until I'm confident I know them. Then of course, I'll be wrong.

    I've been singing SEVERAL incorrect lyrics for decades - for bands other than PJ, too.

    That said, Pearl Jam's are definitely some of the toughest to figure out without reading them.
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