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Originally posted by bartajax:No they played bad, Milan got a red card in the 20th minute. Ajax created some changes but couldn't get through the defense.
A draw against Milan of a couple of years ago was good, but this Milan is very bad.

but you said that this Ajax was weak or i m wrong ? and Milan is always Milan ...is not easy never ..even when they haven t a good team like now

patou2

11 years

:X :X

iTim

11 years

Bony would've been better off heading to Ajax in my opinion. He was a beast for Vitesse last year but he's done nothing of note for Swansea this season. Is it any consolation knowing that you're the only Dutch side in the Europa League now?

I can't wait for the draw, even if we do face the prospect of slightly weaker sides. I'll go to the home game in the second round and if we progress, which we really should, I hope we get a great quarter-final (Madrid!). The second round draw for Arsenal and Manchester City could be lethal.

iTim

11 years

By the way, when is the winter break for your domestic leagues? As you may know, we don't have one in England but I don't want to run the predictions with just English games so I need to find a date to shut down until the spring.

clover68

11 years

here not this but the next weekend is the last then restart at Epiphany

bartajax

11 years

Originally posted by patou2:[..]

but you said that this Ajax was weak or i m wrong ? and Milan is always Milan ...is not easy never ..even when they haven t a good team like now

Ajax is pretty weak when you just look at the players, but De Boer is a great coach. He manages to make the players really play as a team. And ofcourse its still Milan but they are so bad, looking at the draws of the last couple of years the third place than was great. But this season we played against the weakest Milan of 20 (?) years and Celtic who don't have anything to do in the CL. Its still a bit of bad luck, Milan at home there was that penalty in the last minute and last week we could have won it with a little more luck. Ahh well too bad, Europa League it is....

And Tim, Bony was way too expensive for Ajax and every other Dutch club. Even if Ajax could have afforded him, Vitesse wouldn't sell Bony to Ajax. They are in the hand of Chelsea. Van Ginkel could go to Ajax this summer, which he wanted, Ajax even wanted to pay more than Chelsea. But since Vitesse is Chelsea 2 nowadays he moved to London. Its a shame, Vitesse have 6 or 7 players from Chelsea on loan now.

There is still 2 weeks to go here, this weekend and next. After that there is a break until the end of january.

iTim

11 years

I didn't take into consideration the value of Bony, what was the fee?

bartajax

11 years

12 million pounds. That's 14 million euro's.

As of last season Ajax decided they don't want to spend huge amounts of money anymore. For Van Ginkel they wanted to pay 7 million euro's and I guess that's about the limit.
Everything is now focused on the youth, they still do transfers there, young player who get taked into the academy and learn the ''Ajax-game'' are cheaper and will get sold, hopefully, with a large profit.

It's a new course, which I don't fully agree with but it's better than spending millions of euro's each season and finishing third or something (PSV) or being the playtoy of a rich East European gangster (Vitesse) and so far it looks like it's succesfull.

iTim

11 years

I've collated the scores from the nine games already played, just waiting for Roma to beat Milan tonight

Not a lot of change overall.

Champions League and Europa League draws in an hour or so, hoping for a deadly tie for one particular English club in the Champions League. Olympiakos would be my choice to face United. I would want to avoid Galatasaray.

iTim

11 years

Manchester City v Barcelona
Olympiakos v Manchester United
AC Milan v Atletico Madrid
Bayer Leverkusen v Paris St-Germain
Galatasaray v Chelsea
Schalke v Real Madrid
Zenit St Petersburg v Borussia Dortmund
Arsenal v Bayern Munich.

germcevoy

11 years

Poor AVB. Spurs will plummit from here.

patou2

11 years

Originally posted by iTim:Manchester City v Barcelona
Olympiakos v Manchester United
AC Milan v Atletico Madrid
Bayer Leverkusen v Paris St-Germain
Galatasaray v Chelsea
Schalke v Real Madrid
Zenit St Petersburg v Borussia Dortmund
Arsenal v Bayern Munich.

wowww always great matches in the CL !!

Manchester City v Barcelona
AC Milan v Atletico Madrid
Arsenal v Bayern Munich.

Those will be great !

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